b16a into a 91 integra
07-15-2003, 01:32 AM
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b16a into a 91 integra
How much would it cost to put a b16 a into my 91 teg? I know the shift linkage, and wiring harness are the same and so are the mounts. So its basically a drop in installation. Anyone know?
07-16-2003, 02:22 AM
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I like the higher rev capability, and the b16 provides a more open plain too aftermarket modifying. I was also thinking of putting a gsr motor in but im not sure how much more difficult it is, I think the motor mounts are the same but I would need a cable tranny and the wiring is much different. Anyone know how much more different it is to put a b18c into my 91 teg?
07-16-2003, 04:28 PM
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First off... don't take any of this as gospel. I am still learning and checking the facts. But here is what I have found so far.
I have been looking at a swap for my '91. I ruled out the B16 early because of lack of torque compared to the B18. This is especially true for the VTEC motors. On an all race motor torque is not a big deal but for a driver it is.
It will be just as easy to put a B18 or even a B20 in your 91 as it is for the B16. They are the same externally. The biggest diff is the wiring. Therefore a B18c1 will fit the same as a B16b. However the B16a will be much closer to your wiring. You will need to deal with VTEC on both motors though.
I have heard that the B20b will bolt to my tranny and my mounts. Then I use my intake and exaust so wiring is factory. When I am ready to go VTEC then I put the head on my block and wire the VTEC. Like frankenstien but with a bigger botom end. I have heard of VTEC valve clearance problems with the B20 though.
The hydro tranny is not that dificult to use. They make adapters. Or you can use the tranny you got with the B18c1. It just don't have the ratios that are optimized for the VTEC motor thats all.
The 92 Teg had a cable tranny with a VTEC motor but these are hard to find. Lots of JDM cable trannys avail though. That was a B17a but the wiring still don't match because that car was OBD1.
Good luck and hope this helped.
I have been looking at a swap for my '91. I ruled out the B16 early because of lack of torque compared to the B18. This is especially true for the VTEC motors. On an all race motor torque is not a big deal but for a driver it is.
It will be just as easy to put a B18 or even a B20 in your 91 as it is for the B16. They are the same externally. The biggest diff is the wiring. Therefore a B18c1 will fit the same as a B16b. However the B16a will be much closer to your wiring. You will need to deal with VTEC on both motors though.
I have heard that the B20b will bolt to my tranny and my mounts. Then I use my intake and exaust so wiring is factory. When I am ready to go VTEC then I put the head on my block and wire the VTEC. Like frankenstien but with a bigger botom end. I have heard of VTEC valve clearance problems with the B20 though.
The hydro tranny is not that dificult to use. They make adapters. Or you can use the tranny you got with the B18c1. It just don't have the ratios that are optimized for the VTEC motor thats all.
The 92 Teg had a cable tranny with a VTEC motor but these are hard to find. Lots of JDM cable trannys avail though. That was a B17a but the wiring still don't match because that car was OBD1.
Good luck and hope this helped.
07-16-2003, 09:18 PM
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jdm b20b is a good choice but will require more things changed over for the obd2-->non-obd changeover. Also only has 140 hp. I would do b16 if I were you. Simple and cheap.
07-16-2003, 09:44 PM
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I have never understood why anyone would swap from a B18A to a B16A. There really isn't anything you can do to a B16A that you can't do to a B18A. Sure, the B16A revs higher and makes more top-end horsepower, but the price and torque loss is not nearly worth it. I would consider nothing less then a B17A for the DA9 chassis, ideally an LS/VTEC hybrid or a B18C would be used.
07-16-2003, 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kai
I have never understood why anyone would swap from a B18A to a B16A. There really isn't anything you can do to a B16A that you can't do to a B18A. Sure, the B16A revs higher and makes more top-end horsepower, but the price and torque loss is not nearly worth it. I would consider nothing less then a B17A for the DA9 chassis, ideally an LS/VTEC hybrid or a B18C would be used.
I have never understood why anyone would swap from a B18A to a B16A. There really isn't anything you can do to a B16A that you can't do to a B18A. Sure, the B16A revs higher and makes more top-end horsepower, but the price and torque loss is not nearly worth it. I would consider nothing less then a B17A for the DA9 chassis, ideally an LS/VTEC hybrid or a B18C would be used.
07-17-2003, 04:22 AM
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I would take the money that you have for the swap and just put it into the b18. You could do quit a bit with that type of money for the b18 and would most likely out perform the b16.
