Wow, an Obama speech that I actually agreed with in part

[JessTD]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...t-america-fix/ In declaring that it was time for Middle East peace "without preconditions," President Obama used his speech to the U.N. General Assembly Wednesday to fire a warning at Israel that "America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements." Obama's stark declaration, which drew applause, was coupled with a call for Palestinians to end their "incitement of Israel." But it was the use of the U.N. forum to carry the settlement message to Israel that drew the most enthusiastic response on the floor and incredulous reaction outside its walls. Obama just put Israel "on the chopping block," said former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton. Obama said he met Tuesday with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who was not in attendance at the speech, and agreed that the two have made some progress in both strengthening security and facilitating freedom of movement that has allowed the economy in the West Bank to grow. But he added, more progress is needed. "We continue to call on Palestinians to end incitement against Israel, and we continue to emphasize that America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements," he said. Obama said four issues separate the two sides: security, borders, refugees and Jerusalem, but the goal is clear: a secure, Jewish state for Israel and "a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967." He also said a new order is needed in dealing with the dispute. "The United States does Israel no favors when we fail to couple an unwavering commitment to its security with an insistence that Israel respect the legitimate claims and rights of the Palestinians. And nations within this body do the Palestinians no favors when they choose vitriolic attacks over a constructive willingness to recognize Israel's legitimacy, and its right to exist in peace and security," he said. In his first speech to the world body, Obama applied his campaign slogan to the international community and challenged the global community to step up and fix the world's problems both at home and abroad. He said it is no longer plausible to be bad actors and then blame the United States. "The people of the world want change," he said, noting that "just as no nation should be forced to accept the tyranny of another nation, no individual should be forced to accept the tyranny of their own government." The world's problems are not "solely America's endeavor," Obama said, noting the threats from poverty, global warming, disease pandemics and overpopulation. "Those who used to chastise America for acting alone in the world cannot now stand by and wait for America to solve the world's problems alone," Obama said. Obama said he's led by example by prohibiting torture of detainees and ordering the closure of the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He added he is is committed to removing all U.S. troops from Iraq by 2011 and is working to reach the goal of "a world without nuclear weapons." He said the G-20 industrialized nations have spent $2 trillion to keep the world from the brink of an economic collapse and has demonstrated its commitment to the world body by paying its bills and joining the Human Rights Council. "Nothing is easier than blaming others for our troubles and absolving ourselves of responsibility for our choices and our actions. Anyone can do that. Responsibility and leadership in the 21st century demands more. In an era when our destiny is shared, power is no longer a zero sum game. No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold," he said. Speaking to the 59th opening session of the U.N. General Assembly, Obama laid out four pillars for the world community -- peace in the Mideast and elsewhere, a reduction in nuclear weapons, preservation of the environment and global economic opportunity. Obama said he wants a post-atomic age, and will hold countries accountable for threatening the rest of the globe with nuclear weapons as the United States tries to reduce its arsenal. Saying the United States will work with Russia to reduce its strategic warheads through an update of the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Obama pledged to move to ratify the Test Ban Treaty, work with others so that "nuclear testing is permanently prohibited," begin negotiations in January on a treaty to end fissile material production and host a summit in April that reaffirms each nation's responsibility to secure nuclear material on its territory. While he said he was not going to single out any nation, in the next sentence Obama called out North Korea and Iran as threats to world cooperation. "Those nations that refuse to live up to their obligations must face consequences. This is not about singling out individual nations -- it is about standing up for the rights of all nations that do live up to their responsibilities," he said, adding "the governments of North Korea and Iran threaten to take us down this dangerous slope." "I am committed to diplomacy that opens a path to greater prosperity and a more secure peace for both nations if they live up to their obligations. ... But if the governments of Iran and North Korea choose to ignore international standards ... then they must be held accountable." As Obama spoke, Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi, who followed Obama in delivering a speech from the dais, scribbled notes as he listened to the U.S. president through a translation ear piece. Iranian President Ahmadinejad also sat still listening with his hands cusped together in his lap. He did not take notes. Neither applauded during the speech, though Qaddafi clapped when the president ended his remarks. Ahmadinejad did not. In his 38-minute speech, Obama pressed the world to cooperate on carbon emissions reduction, saying the "wealthy nations that did so much to damage the environment in the 20th century must accept our obligation to lead" but "the fast-growing carbon emitters who can do more to reduce their air pollution without inhibiting growth." Obama also pledged continued aid through the Global Fund to fight HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria and polio, and by contributions of H1N1 vaccines to the World Health Organization. He also talked about greater integration of economies through global trade and the Millennium Development Goals. "Now is the time for all of us to do our part. Growth will not be sustained or shared unless all nations embrace their responsibility. Wealthy nations must open their markets to more goods and extend a hand to those with less, while reforming international institutions to give more nations a greater voice. Developing nations must root out the corruption that is an obstacle to progress ... That's why we will support honest police and independent judges; civil society and a vibrant private sector," he said. both of those parts are about time a president stood up and said it. fuck isreal and their need to keep making settlements against international treaties and subjugate the Palestinians to the level they are and fuck the hypocrites in this world

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[å]

i like how you added the 'in part' to your thread title :P

[JessTD]

Originally Posted by å

i like how you added the 'in part' to your thread title :P

thats because i don't know what the whole speech says

maybe he was like "fuck whitey"

then what would i say?

[IluvJae]

fuck whi..............te women for not giving up the p00n to non-hood lookin dudes

[dj02]

Originally Posted by JessTD

thats because i don't know what the whole speech says

maybe he was like "fuck whitey"

then what would i say?

fuck em?

[RB]

Great speech.

"Those nations that refuse to live up to their obligations must face consequences. This is not about singling out individual nations -- it is about standing up for the rights of all nations that do live up to their responsibilities," he said, adding "the governments of North Korea and Iran threaten to take us down this dangerous slope."

Love this part. "Not singling out individual nations" followed one sentence later by specificly calling out Iran and North Korea

[JessTD]

Originally Posted by RB

Great speech.




Love this part. "Not singling out individual nations" followed one sentence later by specificly calling out Iran and North Korea

that cracked me up too

it was like the age old lame joke ... i'm not naming names but someone ... JOSH ... shit in the urinal. but in this instance its hilarious

[å]

i want wait to see his this whole 'Israel is on the chopping block' think works out

[ShaolinLueb]

i liked

The world's problems are not "solely America's endeavor," Obama said, noting the threats from poverty, global warming, disease pandemics and overpopulation.

about fucking time someone laid it out for the UN.

[hitman619]

Originally Posted by RB

Great speech.




Love this part. "Not singling out individual nations" followed one sentence later by specificly calling out Iran and North Korea

Originally Posted by JessTD

that cracked me up too

it was like the age old lame joke ... i'm not naming names but someone ... JOSH ... shit in the urinal. but in this instance its hilarious

funny shit

About time someone put Israel on front street.
how can you talk about peace when you keep buliding condos and shit in
someone else's country

ibtarkwillhavesomethingtosayaboutthis

[Nightshade]

Although I agree that Israel has been sucking our tit for long enough I also don't see this ending well for all involved. This is a line in the sand I don't think he thought through very well.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Nightshade

...snip...This is a line in the sand I don't think he thought through very well.

seems Mr Obama does this a lot.

He says plenty of things that sound pretty good.

[å]

UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- A rare meeting of U.N. Security Council heads of state, led for the first time by a U.S. president, adopted a resolution Thursday focused on stopping the spread of nuclear weapons.

President Obama challenged the gathering, which included leaders of nuclear powers including Russia, China, Great Britain and France, to overcome cynicism against the goal of ridding the planet of nuclear arms.

"We harbor no illusions about the difficulty of bringing about a world without nuclear weapons," Obama said, adding that Thursday's meeting signaled a significant step forward in cooperative global action.

The resolution, which was adopted unanimously, calls for tighter controls on nuclear materials to prevent them from being stolen or used for military purposes. It also encourages enforcement of international treaties and U.N. resolutions regarding nuclear non-proliferation, particularly when nations such as Iran and North Korea are in violation.

"The world must stand together," Obama said. "We must demonstrate that international law is not an empty promise."

It was the first Security Council summit chaired by a U.S. president, and only the fifth time that Security Council heads of state have met. Obama led the meeting because the United States holds the revolving presidency of the Security Council in September.

Both Obama and Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, who spoke later, said the world's two nuclear superpowers were working on reducing their stockpiles in advance of a global nuclear summit scheduled for next year.

"It's obvious that an effective solution ... depends on the constructive engagement of all parties," Medvedev said, adding that he expected the Russia-U.S, leadership on the issue to be backed by "all nuclear powers."

Security Council resolution 1887 calls for "locking down vulnerable nuclear weapon materials in four years" while minimizing civilian use of weapons-grade uranium. It encourages full compliance with all international treaties and resolutions on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament, including Security Council resolutions that cite North Korea and Iran for failing to adhere to international commitments.

In addition, the resolution supports the peaceful use of nuclear energy, a theme backed by Chinese President Hu Jintao. China seeks to expand its nuclear energy capacity as part of an economic development plan that holds down greenhouse gas emissions that cause climate change.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown also cited the role of nuclear power as a clean energy source that should be part of the solution to the global warming affecting every nation. Brown and other leaders spoke of the need to prevent nuclear weapons or the materials to make them from ending up in the hands of terrorist groups.

"The biggest risk the world faces today is of extremists getting hold of nuclear materials," said Mohammad ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, who criticized the Security Council on Wednesday in a rambling speech to the U.N. General Assembly, failed to arrive for the start of the meeting.

In Libya's turn to speak, its special representative to the United Nations called for the atomic energy agency to inspect all nuclear programs, including Israel's, instead of focusing on non-nuclear states.

Brown earlier called for sanctions against Iran for its efforts to develop a nuclear weapon.

On Wednesday, Medvedev signaled that Russia -- which previously has opposed such move -- also could support sanctions against Iran.

"Russia's position is clear. Sanctions rarely lead to productive results, but in some cases sanctions are inevitable," Medvedev said in a joint appearance with Obama after they met in New York.

The statement bolsters U.S.-led efforts for increased international pressure on Iran to adhere to non-proliferation agreements in pursuing the development of nuclear energy.

Iran claims its nuclear program is intended for peaceful purposes, but the international community accuses it of continuing to try to develop nuclear weapons capability.

The Iranian mission to the United Nations released a statement after the Security Council meeting, saying the country's nuclear activities "are and always have been, for peaceful purposes, and, therefore, pose no threat whatsoever."

"In practicing its legitimate right to develop nuclear energy technology, Iran has always maintained its need for nuclear power as an alternative source of energy to supply its booming population and rapid development. ... Our commitment to non-proliferation remains intact," the statement said.

The United States and Russia previously have disagreed over Iran, and over possible steps the Security Council may take -- including imposing sanctions -- to push Tehran to comply with U.N. demands concerning its nuclear program.

Last week, Obama announced that the United States was dropping plans to base a missile defense shield system in Poland and the Czech Republic, a proposal that had rankled Moscow. He has denied the change was directly linked to Russia's position regarding sanctions on Iran, but said any Russian shift in that direction would be a bonus.

looks like some of the World Change (tm) is starting to pick up some support....

[Nightshade]

Originally Posted by å

looks like some of the World Change (tm) is starting to pick up some support....

Those who beat their swords into plowshares shall plow the fields of those who did not.

[ShaolinLueb]

Ooooobaaaamaaaaaaaa