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Old 01-13-2006, 12:37 AM
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Hi,
I have a US (American) 2005 Accord LX Auto 4 cyl. My uncle has also an American made 2000 Accord LX Manual (bought in Europe from Honda dealer - it is the actual accord exported from US to Europe - the only difference is the engine is not 2.4 - it is 2.0 liter).

Now, in my uncle's Honda manual it says oil should be changed every 10k miles and that he can use 5-30, 10-40 oils.

My manual (05 Accord LX) says use 5W-20 oil. I have a feeling that the only reason they want us to use 5W-20 in the US is to get a better fuel economy. However, (even though I always use Mobil 1 synthetic) I feel that my car engine will be much better protected with 5W-30 as opposed to 5W-20 oils.

My question is - can I use in 05 Accord 5W-30 or will it (besides fuel economy) affect the engine in negative way at all? What about in the summer? Can I use 10W-40?

Thx
Old 01-13-2006, 08:19 AM
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You can use what ever oil you like. Honda recommends not require that you use 5w20. The oil grade would depend on the area that you live. If you live in the desert I would recommend 10W30 or 10W40. In Cold or normal conations 5w20 or 5w30 is fine.

I have a 99 Accord I4 and it recommends 5w30. I've used both 5w20, 5w30 and 10w30 in my car and I don't notice a differents in gas mileage
Old 01-13-2006, 09:03 AM
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Since your vehicle is 2005 and most likely is still under warranty I would follow the manufacturer's recomendations.

The digit 20 in 5W-20 oil grade stands for 20 degrees Fahrenhiet. If temperature in your area gets that low that is the grade I would use.

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Old 01-13-2006, 08:53 PM
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I belive oil will not void warranty at all. My question is, is it safe to use 5W-30/40 instead of 5W-20?
Old 01-14-2006, 02:57 PM
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http://www.autoeducation.com/autoshop101/oil-change.htm
Oil weight, or viscosity, refers to how thick or thin the oil is. The temperature requirements set for oil by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) is 0 degrees F (low) and 210 degrees F (high). Oils meeting the SAE's low temperature requirements have a "W" after the viscosity rating (example: 10W), and oils that meet the high ratings have no letter (example SAE 30). An oil is rated for viscosity by heating it to a specified temperature, and then allowing it to flow out of a specifically sized hole. Its viscosity rating is determined by the length of time it takes to flow out of the hole. If it flows quickly, it gets a low rating. If it flows slowly, it gets a high rating.
Engines need oil that is thin enough for cold starts, and thick enough when the engine is hot. Since oil gets thinner when heated, and thicker when cooled, most of us use what are called multi-grade, or multi-viscosity oils. These oils meet SAE specifications for the low temperature requirements of a light oil and the high temperature requirements of a heavy oil. You will hear them referred to as multi-viscosity, all-season and all-weather oils. An example is a 10W-30 which is commonly found in stores. When choosing oil, always follow the manufacturer's recommendation.

Also check out this page about oil myths and facts.
http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm
Old 01-14-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasFlood
http://www.autoeducation.com/autoshop101/oil-change.htm
Oil weight, or viscosity, refers to how thick or thin the oil is. The temperature requirements set for oil by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) is 0 degrees F (low) and 210 degrees F (high). Oils meeting the SAE's low temperature requirements have a "W" after the viscosity rating (example: 10W), and oils that meet the high ratings have no letter (example SAE 30). An oil is rated for viscosity by heating it to a specified temperature, and then allowing it to flow out of a specifically sized hole. Its viscosity rating is determined by the length of time it takes to flow out of the hole. If it flows quickly, it gets a low rating. If it flows slowly, it gets a high rating.
Engines need oil that is thin enough for cold starts, and thick enough when the engine is hot. Since oil gets thinner when heated, and thicker when cooled, most of us use what are called multi-grade, or multi-viscosity oils. These oils meet SAE specifications for the low temperature requirements of a light oil and the high temperature requirements of a heavy oil. You will hear them referred to as multi-viscosity, all-season and all-weather oils. An example is a 10W-30 which is commonly found in stores. When choosing oil, always follow the manufacturer's recommendation.

Also check out this page about oil myths and facts.
http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm


Thanks. I decided to put 5W-30 fully synthetic (Mobil 1 Extended Protection - 15k) in my 05 accord. I think 5-20 is too thin. I intend to change my oil every 5-6,000 highway miles.

In the summer I will switch to 10-30
Old 01-15-2006, 06:16 AM
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I use 5W30 Castrol in my 95 just because of the wider operating temps and I live in GA.

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Old 01-15-2006, 10:43 AM
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Would I be able to use 5W-40 Mobil1 European Formula in 2005 Accord LX or is this oil too thick for this 4 cyl Honda Engine? (Something about berring clearances?)
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I just follow whatever the dealer is using. 5w-20 for the 7th gen accord in the north east. 5w-20 for older accord in the northeast.
I just switch to the honda oil 5w-20 (for older accord) and i already notice the difference vs the mobil1 10w-40. the temp here tonight is zero F.
Old 01-15-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by strykernyc
I just follow whatever the dealer is using. 5w-20 for the 7th gen accord in the north east. 5w-20 for older accord in the northeast.
I just switch to the honda oil 5w-20 (for older accord) and i already notice the difference vs the mobil1 10w-40. the temp here tonight is zero F.
The thing is the same engine in Europe gets 10-30 or 5-30 or 10-40 recommendations. I belive 5-20 is too thin and introduced only to improve fuel economy but that it will NOT protect engine as good as 5-30. I always use fully synthetic oils (Mobil1 or Amsoil).

My question is, Mobil1 has a new 5W-40 Euro Formula Oil. I would like to use it in my 05 accord. Does anyone know if that is safe?

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