Understeer?
#1
Understeer?
Hmm recently on a on turn at 70mph on the highway my car felt like it wasn't wanting to turn right, it left like my car was being pulled left even while the wheels were facing the direction i was trying to turn. Is that understeer or just my imagination? I'm using Toyo Proxy's on a stock suspension.
If that's understeer, then what suspension upgrades would be best to reduce this occurrence?
If that's understeer, then what suspension upgrades would be best to reduce this occurrence?
#2
On permanent hiatus
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: A forum with actual tech
Posts: 9,716
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It is understeer. Probably not a good idea to be taking turns at 70 mph on stock suspension.
To reduce understeer, a stiffer set of springs should be run along with a thicker swaybar.
To reduce understeer, a stiffer set of springs should be run along with a thicker swaybar.
#3
stiffer springs/coilovers + korbach framelocks = end of understeer. works for me. but yeah just go with a stiffer suspension setup and rear sway bar for the win. i personally dont have a rear sway yet the car feels very neutral.
#4
On permanent hiatus
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: A forum with actual tech
Posts: 9,716
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Outxider
stiffer springs/coilovers + korbach framelocks = end of understeer. works for me. but yeah just go with a stiffer suspension setup and rear sway bar for the win. i personally dont have a rear sway yet the car feels very neutral.
#5
Originally Posted by Outxider
stiffer springs/coilovers + korbach framelocks = end of understeer.
#6
How about Shocks and Struts? If I was to get adjustable ones, how should I adjust them to make my car's handling neutral?
I'll give the Korbach Framelocks a try. I've never seen nor heard of them til you guys mentioned them.
I'll give the Korbach Framelocks a try. I've never seen nor heard of them til you guys mentioned them.
#7
Honorary Moderator Alumni
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Someplace with cones=AUTO
Posts: 8,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Actually to reduce understeer just drive slower - duh! If you upgrade the suspension and try to drive that section again you will probably kill yourself because the car will oversteer you off a cliff.
I recommend something even cheaper than a suspension upgrade. Go take an autocross school or Evolution School (http://www.autocross.com/evolution) - they will teach you how to drive your car.
I recommend something even cheaper than a suspension upgrade. Go take an autocross school or Evolution School (http://www.autocross.com/evolution) - they will teach you how to drive your car.
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
#8
"Actually to reduce understeer just drive slower - duh! If you upgrade the suspension and try to drive that section again you will probably kill yourself because the car will oversteer you off a cliff"
He said he was doing 70 mph on the FREEWAY!!! He should be able to negotiate any turn easily at that speed. I have managed to take the entire course of most freeways(south. CA) at speed exceeding the hundred mark, including sharp turns/curves. Sometimes I like to test the capabilities of the car. I have noticed, however, that the Civic (mine EX) are not particuliary good in negotiating turns.
He said he was doing 70 mph on the FREEWAY!!! He should be able to negotiate any turn easily at that speed. I have managed to take the entire course of most freeways(south. CA) at speed exceeding the hundred mark, including sharp turns/curves. Sometimes I like to test the capabilities of the car. I have noticed, however, that the Civic (mine EX) are not particuliary good in negotiating turns.
#9
Honorary Moderator Alumni
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Someplace with cones=AUTO
Posts: 8,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Highway could mean 45-55mph. Which would mean he could be going 15-25mph over the limit. Which is why there are speed limits for some corners.
Well yeah it's a Civic - econobox. Which is why I recommend the autocross schools because it will teach you how to corner and take better lines
I have noticed, however, that the Civic (mine EX) are not particuliary good in negotiating turns.
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
#10
Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
Highway could mean 45-55mph. Which would mean he could be going 15-25mph over the limit. Which is why there are speed limits for some corners.
Well yeah it's a Civic - econobox. Which is why I recommend the autocross schools because it will teach you how to corner and take better lines
Well yeah it's a Civic - econobox. Which is why I recommend the autocross schools because it will teach you how to corner and take better lines