Danger putting 23mm rear sway bay in NON-Type R Teg??
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Danger putting 22mm rear sway bay in NON-Type R Teg??
I have a 95 Integra SE. Am I risking damage to the mounts if I install a 22mm Type R rear sway bar in place of the stock bar? No other mods have been done to the suspension yet. I have heard that the stiffness of the Type R bar can damage and/or rip the mouting points. Is this true?
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It's called subframe tear out, and yes it can happen. That's why people use reinforcement kits (ex.Beaks kit).
I sprung for the Comptech adjustable sway/tie bar to avoid the hassle altogether. Even this setup has been somewhat of a pain to control under heavy cornering.
I sprung for the Comptech adjustable sway/tie bar to avoid the hassle altogether. Even this setup has been somewhat of a pain to control under heavy cornering.
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Why do you want ot put a large sway bar on the rear of your car? Is this a street driving car? If so,don't do it, you will make your car more prone to snap oversteer as the car will become tailhappy if you are not carfull add into the fact that I have seen plenty of pictures of subframe tearout even with reinforcment kits, I think this is an ugprade that is not worth it for a car that is just going to be street driving, soft spring rates and a big sway will lead to sub frame tear out.
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beaks kit and the bsq kit dramatically reduce the risk of tearout. And if acura sells a car in the USA with a 22mm rear sway combined with sub-200lb/in springs, beleive me, snap oversteer is not an issue.
I have a 22mm rear bar, and 400lb rear springs, and can still control oversteer just fine. I consider the itr rear bar one of hte best bang/$ suspension modifications you can do.
I have a 22mm rear bar, and 400lb rear springs, and can still control oversteer just fine. I consider the itr rear bar one of hte best bang/$ suspension modifications you can do.
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
beaks kit and the bsq kit dramatically reduce the risk of tearout. And if acura sells a car in the USA with a 22mm rear sway combined with sub-200lb/in springs, beleive me, snap oversteer is not an issue.
I have a 22mm rear bar, and 400lb rear springs, and can still control oversteer just fine. I consider the itr rear bar one of hte best bang/$ suspension modifications you can do.
I have a 22mm rear bar, and 400lb rear springs, and can still control oversteer just fine. I consider the itr rear bar one of hte best bang/$ suspension modifications you can do.
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Originally Posted by Solracer
Why do you want ot put a large sway bar on the rear of your car? Is this a street driving car? If so,don't do it, you will make your car more prone to snap oversteer as the car will become tailhappy if you are not carfull add into the fact that I have seen plenty of pictures of subframe tearout even with reinforcment kits, I think this is an ugprade that is not worth it for a car that is just going to be street driving, soft spring rates and a big sway will lead to sub frame tear out.
There is snap oversteer, but it's the most controlled kind I've ever felt in a car.... I mean, I haven't driven superpowered RWD cars, but my integra, with the comptech kit at the highest stiffness, is very predictable and calm. Of course, this is partnered with Apex'i N1 coilovers (10kg/mm f and 5 kg/mm r), so the springs balance this out a lot.
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
beaks kit and the bsq kit dramatically reduce the risk of tearout. And if acura sells a car in the USA with a 22mm rear sway combined with sub-200lb/in springs, beleive me, snap oversteer is not an issue.
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Originally Posted by Epoch
highest stiffness, is very predictable and calm. Of course, this is partnered with Apex'i N1 coilovers (10kg/mm f and 5 kg/mm r), so the springs balance this out a lot.