motoguy128

Careful now... look where that got Chrysler... now their run by the Germans. They are doing what they need. They know Toyota is their biggest rival. They are followign their lead in markets. The CRV closely followed the RAV4. Toyotas V6 in their Camry was later followed by the Accord V6. The CRV is now closer to the Highlander platform than the more economical RAV4.

Honda however knows where their core business is. They are not prepared ot launch a full size Truck or SUV like Toyota is. THey don't have the correct brand image. It took Toyota 2 dacades on midsized trucks, racing, and now even NASCAR to get brand recognition.

Honda should as soon make Full Size SUV's and trucks as Toyota should make motorcycles and lawnmowers. There's no transferable product recognition in either case.

Intrepid241

The tail end of the Accord coupe is the least of its problems. It is so fugly! I hate it. The only thing that is worth respect is the 240hp V6 with the 6spd.

smakdown

With respect to the accord, I think you guys are forgetting who the primary buyer of this type of car is. Its not the 3% or so population of people like us who like sporty modified cars, its mostly people like my mom looking for something that rides well, gets good gas mileage, and is extremely reliable. Like others have said I think the best accord was the 5th gen (i have a 94 myself) which i believe was the last generation before they started producing a north american specific model. Americans are fat (we are the fattest country in the world) and like big cars so honda just adjusted to the market here. If they had kept the TSX as the accord here, there would no doubt have been complaints about it being too small for a family sedan. Even though the newer model may seem ugly and non sporty to us, honestly honda could probably care less considering 98% of the people will take what they put out there.

br2819

i didn't like my 7th gen either but it grew on me. i was kinda upset that i couldn't find a new 6th gen at the time but now i think my 7th gen is way better than the 6th gen. i have driven both and the 6th gen feels very sloppy compared to mine.

Project_ITR

the truck will be out within the next couple months

DarkSideAccord

they're just targeting the market segments that they can serve the best... if everyone were to jump in the sport-car bandwagon, there will be no differentiation, and thus Honda would lose more sales... what Honda is doing is smart, but they should seriously fire the current design team.

btw, 6th gen accords and civics >*

motoguy128

I beleive it when I actually see a "Full size" Honda pick-up. I'm betting it will be a in betwen size like the Chevy Colorado size truck that replaced the S-10/Sonoma. You can't have a sucessful full aize truck without a V8. The 3.5L V6 is ok for a base model engine, but they need some real power for towing to compete.

This first truck will be a stepping stone vehicle like the Toyota T100 was. They'll build soem brand image and move forward.

motoguy128

I guess it's the eye of the beholder. I love the looks of my Accord Coupe. It's the reason I chose it over a Solara or the Accord Sedan. I think they took some great styleing cues from the old Prelude for the front end, and went with a nice curved rear end that similar to 1980's front engined Porsches.

Project_ITR

have u seen the honda truck yet? the ridgeline is the size of an avalanche and the V6 in it puts out as much power as chevy's 5.3V8. i know the truck's comin cuz i work at a honda dealership and they're sendin us to houston next month to drive'em before they come out.

xbajbusx

man the new 2003 accord are junks or i just have a bad one ,lots off problems carpet to short ,sterring wheels shackes when you brakes (when to a dealer 2 times already )i got 22k on it and i really not happy,i'm gone go check out toyota or nissan ,trade it in