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MajistirHB · 10-13-04, 01:48 AM

Alright, I've got a 92 civic DX Hatch everything stock. I've never done anything major to a car before and dont knwo where to start. I've got about $2-3k depending on how long all this will take. Some peoeple have their opinions on manuals but I came across a Haynes which has llots a pictures.

200,000 miles on the car D15B7 automatic. the b18b seems like a good engine but dont know how easy that will be for someone whos never done it before. I dont wanna be cheap on parts but want everything best it can be for my budget. and it doesnt have to stay auto id get better everything if i went manual just have to get used to it all over again.

I want a smooth but strong ride, if you guys know how to spend some cash.

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Namek · 10-13-04, 01:50 AM

Take that money you have right now before it's gone and get a B16/B18 or you will regret it down the line

WackyRicky · 10-13-04, 02:12 AM

Couple of choices you have here...
invest on stock market, or
go to vegas and hopefully you'll win a brand-new M-benz.

haha just kidding. yea B18 engine and manual tranny swap would be
a really good choice. B18 runs strong even without VTEC as far as I think.
I'd say go for it.

MajistirHB · 10-13-04, 05:00 AM

so you think the B16A and trans would be an easy swap? Id like to have the higher output from the vtec. I think the DX has vtec wiring already... this thing cost 1500-2000? what would i need to get to get this into my HB?

Relic1 · 10-13-04, 05:28 PM

all '92 civics have wiring to the shock towers for VTEC.

the LS(B18B) swap would be better in the long run if you want to go turbo.
B16A is a good swap, but you're going to get killed by GSR(B18C1) swaps all the time.

if you can do it yourself then your 1500-2k might get it done.
check my site my site for a basic how-to on the electrical aspect. be sure to check out the link at the top to the C-speed how-to for the mechanical aspect of the swap.
Its what I used to do mine and it was a lot of help. (the B16a and B18c1 swaps are basically the same)

pinoydon2003 · 10-13-04, 05:49 PM

save yourself some headaches, sell the auto car and buy a manual hatch and start from there

MajistirHB · 10-13-04, 06:52 PM

Alrigjht thanks for the info Relic. besides a engine, transmission, ECU, intake and exhaust manifolds... what else is needed for a complete swap?

bluetwo · 10-13-04, 07:02 PM

patience. Lots and lots of patience.
Pinoydon has a good point on the headache thing. A manual swap is gonna cost you a LOT of time if you do it yourself. It's not that any one aspect of the swap is going to be extemely hard, but there are SO many little things to do in it to make it work that it may seem overwhelming... at least that is my best guess. I don't know from experience but I've thought about it a good bit.

MajistirHB · 10-13-04, 09:55 PM

ill probably go with the B18C1 with auto transmission. Do i need to worry about the o2 sensor? axles? shift linkage? Throttle cable? motor mounts?
If i dont end up doing this myself how much would a mechanic charge?

MajistirHB · 10-13-04, 10:12 PM

Here a pic of the car, once the guts are finished ill have it painted phantom grey and maybe something else well see how much moneys left.

http://s94620269.onlinehome.us/000780-503167.jpg

b16hatch90 · 10-17-04, 06:27 PM

yo i put a b16a1 in my 90 hatch and i really couldnt be happier i would highly recomend it. its a badass engine for the money

CA VTEC Sol · 10-17-04, 08:16 PM

unless you've got some realllllly good hookups in Japan you won't be finding any auto GSRs, you should just sell the hatch and get a manual hatch

augy · 10-27-04, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CA VTEC Sol

unless you've got some realllllly good hookups in Japan you won't be finding any auto GSRs, you should just sell the hatch and get a manual hatch

He wants to do a auto->manual conversion.

I'm going to add my voice to the chorus: buy a manual (the car, no the book)! You'd have more money to spend on the engine if you sold this car and bought a manual; you'd at least save the cost of the manual swap, you may even come out ahead (an automatic hatch is a bit harder to come by than a manual).

swaggs21 · 10-29-04, 01:08 PM

why not put a d16 in it and turbo it. You could do it for 3 grand with the manual tranny, maybe not the ECU and stuff, but they arent that expensive.

And a turbo D16 will smoke a stock B16, B18B, B18-C1 any day of the week

10-13-04, 02:12 AM	#3
WackyRicky redoing the interior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: JDM Land Posts: 213	Couple of choices you have here... invest on stock market, or go to vegas and hopefully you'll win a brand-new M-benz. haha just kidding. yea B18 engine and manual tranny swap would be a really good choice. B18 runs strong even without VTEC as far as I think. I'd say go for it. __________________ ------------------------------------------------- FS: Custom Built Car Computer FS: 10' sub box, euro lights, JDM type-R rear console WTT: JDM ITR Recaro F&R Seats for Your Stock Seats: PICS POSTED

10-13-04, 05:28 PM	#5
Relic1 Teal Hatch Cult Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 547	all '92 civics have wiring to the shock towers for VTEC. the LS(B18B) swap would be better in the long run if you want to go turbo. B16A is a good swap, but you're going to get killed by GSR(B18C1) swaps all the time. if you can do it yourself then your 1500-2k might get it done. check my site my site for a basic how-to on the electrical aspect. be sure to check out the link at the top to the C-speed how-to for the mechanical aspect of the swap. Its what I used to do mine and it was a lot of help. (the B16a and B18c1 swaps are basically the same) __________________ THC: #8 "It's just a VX." the new civic hatchback community - ie CHB

10-13-04, 05:49 PM	#6
pinoydon2003 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: 650 --> 310 Posts: 542	save yourself some headaches, sell the auto car and buy a manual hatch and start from there __________________ http://www.onlineshowoff.com/index.asp?section=profile&username=FiLiPiNoY650

10-13-04, 07:02 PM	#8
bluetwo Relevance is irrelevant Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 6,056	patience. Lots and lots of patience. Pinoydon has a good point on the headache thing. A manual swap is gonna cost you a LOT of time if you do it yourself. It's not that any one aspect of the swap is going to be extemely hard, but there are SO many little things to do in it to make it work that it may seem overwhelming... at least that is my best guess. I don't know from experience but I've thought about it a good bit. __________________ ________________________ 00 Honda Civic EX daily driver 84 Honda Nighthawk CB700

10-29-04, 01:08 PM	#14
swaggs21 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lumberport, WV Posts: 5,327	why not put a d16 in it and turbo it. You could do it for 3 grand with the manual tranny, maybe not the ECU and stuff, but they arent that expensive. And a turbo D16 will smoke a stock B16, B18B, B18-C1 any day of the week __________________ 2008 Honda Civic SI - Nighthawk Black House Build/Status Pics Wood Working Pics Web Site

10-13-04, 01:50 AM	#2
Namek Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 206	Take that money you have right now before it's gone and get a B16/B18 or you will regret it down the line

10-13-04, 05:00 AM	#4
MajistirHB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7	so you think the B16A and trans would be an easy swap? Id like to have the higher output from the vtec. I think the DX has vtec wiring already... this thing cost 1500-2000? what would i need to get to get this into my HB?

10-13-04, 06:52 PM	#7
MajistirHB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7	Alrigjht thanks for the info Relic. besides a engine, transmission, ECU, intake and exhaust manifolds... what else is needed for a complete swap?

10-13-04, 09:55 PM	#9
MajistirHB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7	ill probably go with the B18C1 with auto transmission. Do i need to worry about the o2 sensor? axles? shift linkage? Throttle cable? motor mounts? If i dont end up doing this myself how much would a mechanic charge?

10-17-04, 06:27 PM	#11
b16hatch90 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: san antonio Posts: 7	yo i put a b16a1 in my 90 hatch and i really couldnt be happier i would highly recomend it. its a badass engine for the money

10-17-04, 08:16 PM	#12
CA VTEC Sol Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 110	unless you've got some realllllly good hookups in Japan you won't be finding any auto GSRs, you should just sell the hatch and get a manual hatch

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