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    Is a S2000 really worth it? HELP

    OK GUYS, big help here.
    I have a 94 civic ex as my daily 135k on her
    I have a 95 GSR Turbo as my fun car 94k on her
    NOW, I found a 2000 S2K for $16,500 with 15,000 on her
    YES 15K on her. Black on black convertible....MINT. The old man selling it said he only drove it on sundays and for only a few months in the yr. OF COURSE no winters. The under body is SPOTLESS. Carfax came up perfect. IN MY EYES the car is BY FAR worth it. BUT i dont really know a lot about the S2K's, except for the fact that IVE ALWAYS wanted one.
    HOW do the 00's differ from the 06's? Is it going to be easier to upgrade or more difficult? I know the 06s look a liiiiiittle bit different but not much.
    I guess what Im asking is should I get this one now...or wait till i FIND a 06+ and snag that. 15k is a shit load lower then 32k
    WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
    Thanks all

    my goal for the car is to probably just keep it stock, mabye intake and exhaust but idont think id boost it since my GSR is already. This would just be a nice relaxing yet FUN FUN FUN car to drive on sundays
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    DEFINITELY get it... that is a steal, 15k is usually 20g's+

    the earlier s2k models are alot more aggressive... they are harder to drive if you're into touge and that kinda stuff, and the newer models got that extra little torque. *shrugs* i'd take the s2k in a heart beat
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    SO why are they so hard to drive? touchy clutch? wheels kick out? rear slids too much

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    last i checked no one really knows.

    i'd imagine i'd have to do with it poducing 240 horse in a very light chasis. and beyond that there are alot of FWD people that upgrade to the s2k who have barley driven RWD cars... so i wouldnt imgaine i'd be too uncommon for it to jump out on them.
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    They are sweet. Only problem is you go through tires like mad.

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    240HP RWD > 300HP FWD???
    Only RWD car i drove was my fathers 87 grand markey'...it was nice

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    It's not difficult to drive at all on a normal driving basis.

    If you're inclined to drive very spiritedly, then you've got to learn the set of parameters dictated by the conditions and drive accordingly.

    The most likely lost control situation is having your rear end walk (oversteer) on you. It's very unsettling to feel your rear tires catching up with the fronts.

    If you are taking a ramp or turn on cold, damp roads, you can take about 6/10 of the G's that you could easily take on dry pavement. If the turn goes off-camber, cut that back to 5/10. If it's raining, cut that back to 4/10's.

    If you are pushing in a turn, you can't add throttle to power yourself out of it as you do with FWD. You've got to ease the throttle (don't lift under any circumstances) and maybe use steering into it to catch traction.

    It's a great price on that car. Do it.

    I was a "German Car Snob" for more than 30 years. A MY00 S2000 was my first Japanese car. I did nearly 40 track days with it before it broke. That's about twice as many as I ever got out of a BMW. I'm now have an MY04 S2000 and I hope that they never stop making them.
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    The back end likes to kick out under hard cornering, because it's a short wheelbase rwd car. As said above, you can't stab the throttle coming out of a turn, and don't lift under any circumstances. In rain and cold weather, be very careful.

    It's by far the best handling car I have ever driven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubcac
    The back end likes to kick out under hard cornering, because it's a short wheelbase rwd car. As said above, you can't stab the throttle coming out of a turn, and don't lift under any circumstances. In rain and cold weather, be very careful.

    It's by far the best handling car I have ever driven.
    You don't count, I would call you somewhat biased on this subject :o

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    So I test drove a S2000 today and was not impressed!

    WELL i was and wasnt. The car is awesome. looks great and feels perfect. like im sitting in a jet or something. steering is awesome and i let the rear end kick out to see what happenes. i took my foot off the gas a smidge and it straightened right out. just driving it for 10 minutes i got looks up the ass, guys/girls and even this 80yr old guy checking his mail. He tossed me a thumbs up! good stuff

    What im not impressed with is its performance. I think its because im used to my 300+ HP teg. The 2000 is a 2.0L and I think has around 220HP, so theres a big difference in HP. I jumped on it and was waiting for it to kick in, "wheres the power!" Even VTEC kinda seemed like nothing.

    They want 20K but I got him down to 18,400. Exhaust has a dent and it has a small crack in the windshield.

    DONT GET ME WRONG....I LOOOOVE THE CAR! But im not sure if I want to buy a slower car then I have. I guess im more into straight line then corners.

    Convince me to buy this and sell the GSRT!




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    Can't quite see the pics....

    I'd prefer taking a corner at 70mph than going straight at 120mph You're going to be buying and driving it dude... Seems like you're more into the straight line raw power... so I guess keep your GSRT...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugsr
    So I test drove a S2000 today and was not impressed!

    WELL i was and wasnt. The car is awesome. looks great and feels perfect. like im sitting in a jet or something. steering is awesome and i let the rear end kick out to see what happenes. i took my foot off the gas a smidge and it straightened right out. just driving it for 10 minutes i got looks up the ass, guys/girls and even this 80yr old guy checking his mail. He tossed me a thumbs up! good stuff

    What im not impressed with is its performance. I think its because im used to my 300+ HP teg. The 2000 is a 2.0L and I think has around 220HP, so theres a big difference in HP. I jumped on it and was waiting for it to kick in, "wheres the power!" Even VTEC kinda seemed like nothing.

    They want 20K but I got him down to 18,400. Exhaust has a dent and it has a small crack in the windshield.

    DONT GET ME WRONG....I LOOOOVE THE CAR! But im not sure if I want to buy a slower car then I have. I guess im more into straight line then corners.

    Convince me to buy this and sell the GSRT!
    So you say you drove it and was not impressed. Why in the world do you want people to "convince" you to buy it??? You already answered your own question.

    From the exhaust pics, you can tell the car has been backed into something since the chrome exhaust piece has been pushed far up onto the actual tailpipe.

    And resize the pics please, they're way too big.
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    my thing is i want both...probably could afford it.
    i could always boost this too. im sure its been done, but i heard the S2K blow their shafts at 300HP+....true/false?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugsr
    my thing is i want both...probably could afford it.
    i could always boost this too. im sure its been done, but i heard the S2K blow their shafts at 300HP+....true/false?
    The stock differential is kind of weak. If you have maybe 300 or more hp at the wheels and launch at a drag strip you could bust it. It's not a drag car(see paragraph below). My buddy supercharged his s2k, and has had NO problems with the diff. He doesn't launch it though.

    The s2k is NOT a drag car. If you want straight line speed only, you are completely wasting your money. It's not slow, but a drag car is the last thing it was designed for.

    Cliffs notes: awesome car, but not for the dragstrip

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    Heh, if you want to go fast in just a straight line look elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evolution
    Heh, if you want to go fast in just a straight line look elsewhere.
    I agree with that statement.

    You expect a car to accelerate, decelerate and turn competently. The S2000 does all of that. If your expectation is only competence in the first of these three abilities, then the S2000 is not the car for you.

    In 2004 at the Nationals of the Tire Rack/SCCA Solo II, B-Stock competition, the S2000 took places 1-16, a Z4 BMW took 17th, S2000 took the next places 18-28, a 350Z took 29th, then two more S2000 before the first Porcshe Boxter place in 31st. ( http://ww2.scca.com/soloresults.php?ID=15 )

    That’s a clear demonstration that it possesses the three major competencies of an automobile.

    Because of that result, the S2000 was moved up to A-Stock where it now competes with cars having motors with as much as 160 bhp greater than the S2000. So, in 2005, it came in 3rd behind a Porsche 993 and a Corvette, then 5th and 7th mostly with a bunch of ZR1 Corvettes in between. That's a further demonstration of competency.
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    ok so mabye i will keep both
    GSRT for straight lines
    S2K for turns and AutoX

    ONE THING, should I be worried about theft like I am with the teg?
    It has an alarm but do I need fuel cutoff, rerouting the hood cable, etc etc?

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    WELL I did it....I picked up the S2K today....I LOVE THE CAR!!!!!
    Yea its slower then the GSRT BUT everyone loves it!. I drove about 40miles today nd had over 10 people giving thumbs up, saying nice car and even one chick flipping out saying she loved the car and she MIST have a ride. IM LIKE wtf let me enjoy the car first....HAHA
    onething though RWD is much different then FWD. I learned this the hard way on the way home =(

    HAHA kidding. its all safe and locked up tight!

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    one thing i found out about my s2k... its alot faster than it feels.. Ill be honest, the car when going in a strait line just dosent feel fast. But pull it up to a mustang gt or a STOCK z28. Youll kill the gt and only be a car or so behind the z28. Both of which feel MUCH FASTER than my s when driving or riding in them. It just doesnt put you in the seat like it should.


    Since you seem like a mostly strait line racer like myself you will probably need to know this info pretty soon. In the very likely event that the transmission and rearend go out in it , replace both with upgraded 04+ parts(cheapest) or comptech (rear end and throw in a 4.56 gear while your in there). I did. I got mine off of car-part.com. IMO The 04 trans is MUCH better than the 00 both in shift feel and acceleration.
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    thanks man ^
    what octane gas? is 93oct a must?

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    only need 93 if you plan on bringing it up VTEC to redline. If you keep it below 6K 87 will run fine but DO NOT rev past that. It will cause detonation at high rpm.

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    really?!
    so 87 if im driving normal and 93 if i go past 6k on my RPMS....not that I dont believe you but how do you know this?
    Ye i learned that the rearend kicks out kinda the hard way!
    I was going up aentrance rmp and WITH MY GSRT i could shift while corning and continue to punch it. Well with the S2K I did the same and when I shifted the rear slid. I almost shit my pants until the car caught again! Scary but kinda fun.
    Anything else I should really know abouht the S2K b4 i do any damage?

    BTW, im loving everyday i have it. Glad as hell i bought it

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    Quote Originally Posted by h22accord
    only need 93 if you plan on bringing it up VTEC to redline. If you keep it below 6K 87 will run fine but DO NOT rev past that. It will cause detonation at high rpm.

    That's possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read.


    Oh, and if you want a faster car than your integra, boost the s2k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h22accord
    only need 93 if you plan on bringing it up VTEC to redline. If you keep it below 6K 87 will run fine but DO NOT rev past that. It will cause detonation at high rpm.
    Uh, I'm going to go with no on that. It's not like the compression changes. You run 87 in the S2000 and enjoy rebuilding the engine.
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    i'd imagine that the s2k might be able to pass by on 91 but 87.... thats pushing it. i don't even think you can pull the timing enough on 87 i mean the s2k's compression is lingering somewhere in the 12:1 range
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    I run 94 octane, i'd recommend at least 91.

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    i don't think that honda would require anything over 91 now that i think about it. there are alot of places where you just can't get 93. i know in one of the neighbooring towns here the highest they have is 91, so i'd imagine that premium grade (91+) would suffice and not super (93+)

    anyone know for sure?

    also knowing the perils of lower octane gas did honda add a knock sensor and safety precautions on the FxxC series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherwood
    i'd imagine that the s2k might be able to pass by on 91 but 87.... thats pushing it. i don't even think you can pull the timing enough on 87 i mean the s2k's compression is lingering somewhere in the 12:1 range

    Not even close. It's 11.1:1. 91 octane is just fine, but don't run anything lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubcac
    Not even close. It's 11.1:1. 91 octane is just fine, but don't run anything lower.
    i thought it was more like 11.5 maybe f20 vs f22?
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    Quote Originally Posted by h22accord
    only need 93 if you plan on bringing it up VTEC to redline. If you keep it below 6K 87 will run fine but DO NOT rev past that. It will cause detonation at high rpm.
    Do NOT put anything less than 91/93 in the car. The manual specificaly states this and unless you want a boatload of headaches, follow what HONDA specifically outlines.

    h22accord, please stop spreading misinformation about the s2000. I've read the posts you've made to the two active threads in the forum and there's nothing much correct in any of them. if you don't know for sure or want to post about "something you heard" ... don't.
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