clowN

im thinking about getting a F22B for my prelude

because i dont have enough money to dish out for an h22a

but anyways, i was wondering, if i can get the f22B performance, by modifying the F22A block? like changine heads, and what not?

also, is the F22B a good engine to fix up for the lowest price costing me about 750$ for it

jdmitr

my suggestion is to just save up and get either the H22 or the F20. Well worth the money because DOHC heads always have the potential to make more horsepower. If you just want to swap heads, that's fine but it may end up costing you about the same because you're gonna have to buy the head, get it machined evenly at a machine shop, buy a new head gasket (coolant, brake cleaner, engine oil and filter, silicon, etc..), and the labor to do the installation correctly. It all adds up unless you're a mechanic and know how to do the labor portion. On top of that, you need a different ECU and possibly some additional sensors (Maybe. I'm not too sure.)

BigLew

F22B is a DOHC engine. F22B is basically and H23A1 with a smaller bore, you can do anything to it you could with an H23A1. Since the F22B does not have FRM sleeves it has a stronger bottom end.

NoShoAccord

From what I have read, it seems like the F22B performs better than the H23 even though the F22B has the same HP but less torque.

F22B seems like a great idea if you want a low mileage replacement for an h23 engine.

ludeboom

where are all these expensive h22's i keep hearing about.
i bought my longblock h22a1 (rare) for about 1200
i see these things all day on ebay
about 1300 for a h22a longblock free shipping
or
around 2000-2200 for a h22a swap.
id much rather have 200 HP instead of 160.

and if you think you've got it bad with a H series motor or swap...
why not check out what the B guys are paying for b18c's and b16a's

~boom

NoShoAccord

Very true.

I paid $1550 picked up (came with a new water pump, timing belt, and cam seals) for my H22 swap. After rebuilding it (seals, oil pump, valve cover gasket, clutch and resurfacing flywheel) cost me a little over $1900 for the swap and all the replacement parts.

I guess it all depends on your budget. It is worth paying a little more for the H22.

ludeboom

damn right its worth it when your outreving 9/10 ricers and beating all of them with a stock h22a

~boom

BigLew

People who know about them, like F22B's for boost because they don't have FRM sleeves. That is realy the only advantage over boosting an H23 the savings cost in having to resleeve because of FRM.

ludeboom

anyone who has swapped an H22a knows about the FRM situation.
there are stock block turbo h22a's making good power with FRM.
i am not making a case for or against the f22b because i have no experience with it.
i do know that the h22a head is unbeatable and turbo loves VTEC lift. i doubt the f22b could support higher boost settings over the h22a. the FRM long term oil consumption problem is the only drawback of the h22a or turbo h22a.

~boom

BigLew

You say you don't know anything about it yet you say you doubt it could support higher boost? How about lower compression for starters, and how about the fact the reason people resleeve when the boost H22As for higher boost is because they use aftermarket forged pistons, which is commonly known to screw up FRM sleeves. Draw back of FRM has nothing to do with oil consumption problems.