what kind of probelms have peole ran in to whiel installing h22's in a 5th gen accord

[tim]

what kind of probelms have peole ran in to whiel installing h22's in a 5th gen accord

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[A96]

i'm interested in this topic too. Especially cars that are obd-II. JDM or USDM motors too please.

[djmtsu]

Yeah, I just posted a thread about this last week, so far no responses. I guess all those guys out there with an H22 in their 5 gen Accords don't feel like sharing the wealth! Kinda ****ty.

[wadzii]

they will prolly get mad at me but go check out my FAQ's on hondasociety in the hybrid forum.

the main issues with h22's in 5th gens is the internal/external coil thing, the ecu pin swaping (gotta swap pin A6 and A11) and vacume lines .

having a 96-97 accord makes it kinda hard. you have to get a skunk2 wiring harness adaptor and convert it to obd1 and change a few wires around in the engine bay.

if you wana keep it obd2 the only motor that will plug in is the 96 h22a the 97+ h22 ecu has immobilizer and has different pinouts for the ecu.

the exhaust is also an issue, you have to cut the exhaust b/c the h22 header is about 16 inches longer than the accord header.

for power steering you have to get a custom line made and i hear you can use a 97 prelude line, but only one person that i know of did that.

[Hondaaccordvtec]

Well, you have to try many different size belts depending on if you use the H22 P/S pump and H22 A/C compressor or the F22 P/S pump & F22 A/C compressor or any combination. The shop that did my swap literally went through 20 - 30 belts before they found the right ones that fit perfectly.

If you are swapping in a JDM H22A - the internal coil can be a problem - just use a '92 - '95 Civic DX dist. cap as a replacement.

had my swap doen now for almost 6 months - everything is hooked up (EGR, etc....) no CEL's at all!

quite satisified!! NOw on to making more power!!!

[wadzii]

you should use the prelude ps pump and the accord ac pump. you have to taket he a/c bracket off the f22 and stick it on the h22. yeah gettin belts for it is a *****, i have about 5 spare damn near useless belts in my shop from 2 swaps

[Eddiebx]

Originally posted by Hondaaccordvtec
Well, you have to try many different size belts depending on if you use the H22 P/S pump and H22 A/C compressor or the F22 P/S pump & F22 A/C compressor or any combination. The shop that did my swap literally went through 20 - 30 belts before they found the right ones that fit perfectly.

If you are swapping in a JDM H22A - the internal coil can be a problem - just use a '92 - '95 Civic DX dist. cap as a replacement.

had my swap doen now for almost 6 months - everything is hooked up (EGR, etc....) no CEL's at all!

quite satisified!! NOw on to making more power!!!

Why didn't your shop just measure the length that you need and get a belt that size? Probably easier than trying 20-30 different belts,

[wadzii]

go back to hondasociety Eddie :booty:

[Eddiebx]

Originally posted by wadzii
go back to hondasociety Eddie :booty:

[mizturyous]

Do any of you have the correct belt size now that you have them done. If so please post it so we who are getting ours done can be one step ahead of problems............Thanks

[dresden_k]

There's some good info about this specific swap at www.H22a.org

[XxRONNxX]

Originally posted by wadzii
they will prolly get mad at me but go check out my FAQ's on hondasociety in the hybrid forum.

the main issues with h22's in 5th gens is the internal/external coil thing, the ecu pin swaping (gotta swap pin A6 and A11) and vacume lines .

having a 96-97 accord makes it kinda hard. you have to get a skunk2 wiring harness adaptor and convert it to obd1 and change a few wires around in the engine bay.

if you wana keep it obd2 the only motor that will plug in is the 96 h22a the 97+ h22 ecu has immobilizer and has different pinouts for the ecu.

the exhaust is also an issue, you have to cut the exhaust b/c the h22 header is about 16 inches longer than the accord header.

for power steering you have to get a custom line made and i hear you can use a 97 prelude line, but only one person that i know of did that.

ok, I avoided most of these problems when I did my 97 Accord swap. The internal/external thing was a problem when I had a JDM H22 in my car. However, I ended up getting a USDM 98 H22A4 so I didn't have to mess with that wiring. The ecu I got with the motor had the immobilizer programmed into it. I hear there are shops that can take it out but I haven't heard of any that have done it successfully. My fix was to use a JDM P5M which is exactly the same as the USDM ecu minus the immobilizer. Plugs right in and its OBD2 so no adapter necessary. Ok, I had to go to the muffler shop to cut the exhaust and move the cat back....can't avoid that. As for the powersteering line, the 98 Prelude line bolted right up to my 97 Accord steering rack and that bolted right up to the 98 Prelude p/s pump. NO problem what-so-ever. I've seen people mate the top part of a prelude line to the bottom part of an accord line also. I know one guy doing a 94 swap using a prelude line but he had to rebend the line to bolt up to the accord steering rack. As for belts, I had to replace the a/c alternator belt with one a little longer. I ended up buying a bunch of sizes and returning the ones I didn't need. This was my 3rd engine and I've done enough swaps into 5th gen accords to know what works and what doesn't so I learned all this by trial and error.

[accordhybrid]

I 'm with all of them I have also done an OBD II swap and kept the car OBD II the only thing i did a little different is that i used the 96 US ecu and when i got the belts i had to get them about 1inch shorter for both belts and i got them at Napa just take them your old belts and tell them you need them an inch shorter or how every long you need them.

In reguards to the exhaust just cut the header and then drive it to a muffler shop and have them weld it together. Also the combo i used is the prelude header accord flange to bolt to the accord cat and then the accord exhaust.

Any other questions feel free to ask we are here to help.

PS We all need to go back to HS

[XxRONNxX]

accordhybrid....did you ref the car or smog it and did you pass? What year was the motor? Just wondering cause I don't know anyone who used a 96 ecu.

[pdr]

Originally posted by accordhybrid

PS We all need to go back to HS

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[accordhybrid]

No I didn't take it to Ref the motor is a 98 US motor I haven't had to smog it yet but i did run a test smog and it passed with ease. I don't see having to ref unless i'm told to because where i get my car smogged that guy helped me do my swap so its not like i need to hide anything and also i didn't change really anything it is still 2.2 liters and a 4cyl just it has 2 cams instead of 1.

Accordhybrid

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[Ryu]

check out my thread i encounters heaps of problems, but nothing hard to make yourself give up on... you actually will be able to solve them when you get there....

Problems I found:

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Swap Problems
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Preparing the wiring was the most diffifcult part...
My engine being a F22B3 (Non-VTEC), the wiring was slightly different to the standard F22B wiring...

I found i had no EGR solenoid? and i had this unusual throttle looking thing that was part of the air filter intake system... turns out this was the Intake Air Bypass (IAB) something that the standard F22B1 didnt have... (This ended up being not used) used the H22A IAB instead...

The h22a ecu came with the plugs with the wires still on them so adding the extra wires was a breeze just taking out the pins using a sharp pointy needle...

Wires Added...
Knock Sensor, VTEC Solenoid, VTEC Pressure Switch, EGR Solenoid, Intake Air Bypass Solenoid...

Some of the colours of the wires didnt match the lude but still was able to figure out what was what...

PS, Alternator -> Prelude
AC Pump and bracket -> Accord

The high pressure hose I used the accord and used the upper half of the Lude... Make sure you get the hose off the car when you hire those hose fitting people to do it...!!! its a ***** taking it off when you have dropped in the engine!


Belts i got custom length from DAYCO... from memory the 6 V rib one was 6PK1080 and the 4 rib one was 4PK1060 i think....

The lower ehxaust manifold.. i had it cut (too long and rewelded)

Disturbutor cap (min was internal) internal caps here are avaliable from honda so i didnt have to worry about getting an external coil or anything...

Just make sure your wiring is correct and you should be sweet!

[wadzii]

where are you from??? 90-93 accords are 4th gen, the 94-97's are 5th gen and i have never heard of a f22b3.

[Ryu]

Originally posted by wadzii
where are you from??? 90-93 accords are 4th gen, the 94-97's are 5th gen and i have never heard of a f22b3.

Im in Australia...

[wadzii]

that could explain it