Fuel line location - Honda-Acura.net

czar99 · 11-05-04, 04:27 PM

I am looking for the fuel line under the hood on a 99 TL. Any help would be appreciated. Picture would be even better since I am not a very car kinda guy.

Thanks,

Chris

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augy · 11-06-04, 03:11 AM

I've never seen a TL engine bay before. Snap a photo, attach it, and one of us will point it out.

Provocateur · 11-07-04, 02:12 AM

If it is anything like my car, there are several fuel lines. Is it the return line or the feed line?

**Kai** · 11-07-04, 10:22 PM

Why do you need to know where the line is on a TL, anyway?

czar99 · 11-08-04, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kai

Why do you need to know where the line is on a TL, anyway?

Because I am installing a device that will save me about 10-20 percent on my MPG. I put one on my Honda Element and it went from 20 MPG to 23 MPG.

I need the feed line location. I will post a pic tommorow. It is the other halfs car and it is hard to get her to sit still.

**Kai** · 11-09-04, 07:08 AM

Sounds like a ghetto fuel pressure regulator set to choke the engine. If you blow the engine from running too lean, you'll know why.

czar99 · 11-11-04, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kai

Sounds like a ghetto fuel pressure regulator set to choke the engine. If you blow the engine from running too lean, you'll know why.

Nope it is a device that fits over the fuel line, no cutting, pinching, or shocking. It is magnets and it polerizes the molucues in the gas and makes it burn cleaner. So the end result is better emmisions, more power, and less fuel wasted so you get more MPG.

jweltch · 11-11-04, 10:52 PM

Those don't work.. try a Tornado instead!

czar99 · 11-11-04, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jweltch

Those don't work.. try a Tornado instead!

Increased 10 percent on my Honda Element, more power and less RPM's at highway speeds. I used to get 21 MPG in the Element. Now, driving the same I get 23 MPG. The tank is 13 gallons, that is 26 more miles PER tank I can go. Yea sounds like it does not work to me to

. With gas the price it is I will take 26 more miles per tank. I will keep you posted on the Acura.

**Kai** · 11-12-04, 02:45 AM

It does sound pretty bogus.

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Originally Posted by czar99

less RPM's at highway speeds.

That's mechanically impossible. To go X speed, the engine and transmission always have to spin the same speed regardless of engine efficiency, short of swaping out gears.

If you want to save gas, accellerate slower and cruise at a lower speed. Putting magnets on your fuel line won't do anything to the milage, but it is an amazing placebo.

augy · 11-12-04, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by czar99

Nope it is a device that fits over the fuel line, no cutting, pinching, or shocking. It is magnets and it polerizes the molucues in the gas and makes it burn cleaner. So the end result is better emmisions, more power, and less fuel wasted so you get more MPG.

Interesting... Is there a website for it? I'd like to run that by my physics teacher.

Provocateur · 11-12-04, 02:11 AM

Sounds as bogus as an electric supercharger.

czar99 · 11-12-04, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shmoo

Sounds as bogus as an electric supercharger.

Here is the wbsite. http://www.energyoptimizer.net/energycel/

I did not post here to get critical reaction. I did not come in here saying I have a product that everyone must own. I came in here asking for help with the location of a fuel line. I am not a total beliver yet also. What I do know is I put one on a '03 Honda Element and I went from 20 MPG to 22-23 MPG. I took it off to put it on the Acura and I went back to 20 MPG on the Element. Oh and it was not a 1 tank test. It was 7, which is not a lot but I did get cosistently better MPG. As far as the mechanical part of using less RPM going same speed is maybe my illusion, but the car seams to run better to me.

**Kai** · 11-12-04, 08:32 PM

The newer TL's have those plastic covers over the engine, you need to rip that off. Look for the fuel rails, find the one with the pressure regulator. The hose coming off the regulator is the return line, if it has one. The opposite rail should have the feed line.

They may have been using a non-returning system by '99. If that is the case, the fuel feed will be the only line to the fuel rails.

ED9man · 11-12-04, 09:59 PM

Why wouldn't they just clump back together again?
Change in highway or idle rpm is complete bullshit.
Unless maybe you have a torque convertor that doesn't lock up.

czar99 · 11-12-04, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ED9man

Why wouldn't they just clump back together again?
Change in highway or idle rpm is complete bullshit.
Unless maybe you have a torque convertor that doesn't lock up.

Like I said I am not a mechanic but it feels diferent. I did not get a before RPM and after RPM, so just throw that out and look at the facts. 20 MPG before to 22-23 MPG after. That is hard fact science. I am a computer guy not a car nut. I do not work on cars, I do not claim to be a car expert. I had help and I found the fuel line and it is on. I will report the first MPG. The Acura was getting 22 MPG before. After.....

Oh and this is what I am told as far as why it does not clump back. The way the magnets are alligned they create centrifical force. That is why you install as close to the engine as possible. I am not an engineer and I am only reporting what I have been told.

czar99 · 11-18-04, 10:56 PM

If anyone cares the Element with the FuelCell off has gone to 19 MPG, down from 23 MPG. The Acura went from 22 MPG to 23 MPG on the first tank. I am wanting better from the Acura. I will give it time and more tanks and see where it goes.

**Kai** · 11-19-04, 02:05 AM

I still say it's a placebo.

czar99 · 11-19-04, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kai

I still say it's a placebo.

Why? Because I am getting better gas mileage? I am just reporting the facts I have gotten. I am not spouting any company documents.

Provocateur · 11-20-04, 04:41 PM

Have you found the fuel line yet?

czar99 · 11-20-04, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shmoo

Have you found the fuel line yet?

Yes I have... Thanks. It is on and one tank through and only 1 MPG better.

Provocateur · 11-21-04, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by czar99

Yes I have... Thanks. It is on and one tank through and only 1 MPG better.

Good for you. But with MPG differing that little, it is most likely your driving habits. A lot of freeway driving will boost my MPG to over 25 but mostly street driving will bump it down to around 21-22. Frequent VTEC engagement and high boost also lower my MPG.

But hey...if it works for you...

11-07-04, 10:22 PM	#4
Kai Rotorphile. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 10,120	Why do you need to know where the line is on a TL, anyway? __________________

11-09-04, 07:08 AM	#6
Kai Rotorphile. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 10,120	Sounds like a ghetto fuel pressure regulator set to choke the engine. If you blow the engine from running too lean, you'll know why. __________________

11-12-04, 08:32 PM	#14
Kai Rotorphile. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 10,120	The newer TL's have those plastic covers over the engine, you need to rip that off. Look for the fuel rails, find the one with the pressure regulator. The hose coming off the regulator is the return line, if it has one. The opposite rail should have the feed line. They may have been using a non-returning system by '99. If that is the case, the fuel feed will be the only line to the fuel rails. __________________

11-12-04, 09:59 PM	#15
ED9man driver Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,600	Why wouldn't they just clump back together again? Change in highway or idle rpm is complete bullshit. Unless maybe you have a torque convertor that doesn't lock up. __________________ sig

11-18-04, 10:56 PM	#17
czar99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Update If anyone cares the Element with the FuelCell off has gone to 19 MPG, down from 23 MPG. The Acura went from 22 MPG to 23 MPG on the first tank. I am wanting better from the Acura. I will give it time and more tanks and see where it goes.

11-06-04, 03:11 AM	#2
augy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 391	I've never seen a TL engine bay before. Snap a photo, attach it, and one of us will point it out.

11-07-04, 02:12 AM	#3
Provocateur On permanent hiatus Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: A forum with actual tech Posts: 9,716	If it is anything like my car, there are several fuel lines. Is it the return line or the feed line?

11-11-04, 10:52 PM	#8
jweltch Closet Ricer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Citrus Heights, CA Posts: 138	Those don't work.. try a Tornado instead!

11-12-04, 02:11 AM	#12
Provocateur On permanent hiatus Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: A forum with actual tech Posts: 9,716	Sounds as bogus as an electric supercharger.

11-19-04, 02:05 AM	#18
Kai Rotorphile. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 10,120	I still say it's a placebo. __________________

11-20-04, 04:41 PM	#20
Provocateur On permanent hiatus Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: A forum with actual tech Posts: 9,716	Have you found the fuel line yet?

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