S2000 "Engine Start" button install?

[IamNemo]

I was wondering if anyone knew of a good DIY out there...I found a fairly crappy one. Also, do you HAVE to relocate it or can you put it in the stock key spot?

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[PretecSH]

Prelude online has 2 or 3 under their FAQ section. If your not a member it costs $6 but they go step by step with pics.

[Technodigifreak]

i've known 4 people with push button starts, all 4 vehicles were stolen within 3 months of installing the button start


i highly do NOT recommend them

[TruNinja619]

^i noe... thats like a Theif's dream right there.. to have that push start button....

[1995 B16A]

Easy way around that is to keep the key so you have to turn the ignition on and then use push button start, like on the S2000.

[Technodigifreak]

Originally posted by 1995 B16A
Easy way around that is to keep the key so you have to turn the ignition on and then use push button start, like on the S2000.

that kind of defeat's the whole idea of a push button start

[1995 B16A]

that kind of defeat's the whole idea of a push button start

It's the only fail safe way to do it really. Aren't they trying to copy the S2000? It has key ignition for added security. Don't all cars w/ push start?

[TruNinja619]

k... i dunno bout y'all... but i think its jus plane dumb to have one in the first place..... wutever happened to jus TURNING THE KEY!!!!!......

[habitatsk8r392]

Originally posted by 1995 B16A
It's the only fail safe way to do it really. Aren't they trying to copy the S2000? It has key ignition for added security. Don't all cars w/ push start?

yeah, they do....especially cause cars that do like the viper and s2k are all convertibles......

[Justasking]

IMO the push button start on the S2K is That is the only thing I dont like about that car.

If I had one I would think of a way to remove it. If you have a key how friggin hard is it to turn it a 1/16th of a turn to start the car.

[menappi]

i dont think you guys know what your talkign about. with a push button start, you need the key in the ingition and turned to start. its sort of a security feature. i have one on my 91 hatch. you can turn the key all you want but it wont even turn over, unless the button is pressed. that way you hide the button so a theif doesnt know what the hell is going on. as far as i know, there sis a switch on the clutch pedal, so you cant start the car unless the clutch is depressed. tap a switch into there. thats what i did.

[1995 B16A]

Originally posted by menappi
i dont think you guys know what your talkign about. with a push button start, you need the key in the ingition and turned to start. its sort of a security feature. i have one on my 91 hatch. you can turn the key all you want but it wont even turn over, unless the button is pressed. that way you hide the button so a theif doesnt know what the hell is going on. as far as i know, there sis a switch on the clutch pedal, so you cant start the car unless the clutch is depressed. tap a switch into there. thats what i did.

You can bypass the key ignition... Who is it that doesn't know what they're talkin about??????

[Sham]

I did the button install a year ago, pretty simple, had a friend help me out who had done it on his car. Yes it seems kinda pointless, but I now ALWAYS start my car with the button. Also, this past weekend, it saved me from being stranded. My starter switch went bad, and if I tried to crank the engine, it would die as soon as I let go of the key. So what kept me going till I fixed it was the push button start. Its a way around using the switch on the ignition. It looks cool when friends ride along too. When I get in the car, I put the key in the ignition, and turn it to the II position. Then when they're all straped in, I push the button, and the car starts right up. They're like , woah, thats cool! Plus, its honda OEM, and the words ENGINE START light up when you turn on your headlights, so you can see it at night. Here's mine installed:





Some may people may think its stupid, but I personally like it, and even though it uses a key, its safe and secure.

[Max Power]

Originally posted by Technodigifreak
i've known 4 people with push button starts, all 4 vehicles were stolen within 3 months of installing the button start


i highly do NOT recommend them

how idiotic is that. NO PRODUCTION VEHICLE with push button starts are set up like that. they all have keys and an ignition where you ahve to set to the 'on' postition to press the button

[1995 B16A]

Originally posted by Sham
I did the button install a year ago, pretty simple, had a friend help me out who had done it on his car. Yes it seems kinda pointless, but I now ALWAYS start my car with the button. Also, this past weekend, it saved me from being stranded. My starter switch went bad, and if I tried to crank the engine, it would die as soon as I let go of the key. So what kept me going till I fixed it was the push button start. Its a way around using the switch on the ignition. It looks cool when friends ride along too. When I get in the car, I put the key in the ignition, and turn it to the II position. Then when they're all straped in, I push the button, and the car starts right up. They're like , woah, thats cool! Plus, its honda OEM, and the words ENGINE START light up when you turn on your headlights, so you can see it at night. Here's mine installed:





Some may people may think its stupid, but I personally like it, and even though it uses a key, its safe and secure.

I've always wanted to put the push button start in my car.. Can ya gimme some hints and tips or something to help me through????

[Sham]

I printed this out:

http://www.miata.net/garage/pushstart/

And used that. Getting the button was easy, went to my Honda dealer, where my buddy works in the parts department, and had it in stock. Bought it, and bought a cable for a floppy drive (since it plugs into the back of the button). Then wired it up. Its lots of fun to use, and when I get into any car, naturally reach for the push button, but don't find one, since it only on my car. PM me any other questions.

[Mr.Badguy]

go ahead and put the button in your car. Security doesnt really mean anything. If somebody wants to steal your car and they know what they are doing, then they will steal it. Hondas are by far the easiest things to steal (dont ask me how I know that.) Just put a good alarm on it and that will keep away most of the thieves.

[habitatsk8r392]

last time i checked camrys were the easiest to steal
or at least the most stolen.

[Sham]

Originally posted by habitatsk8r392
last time i checked camrys were the easiest to steal
or at least the most stolen.

Yup, my neighbors 1991 camry across the street from my house was stolen 3 seperate times over a 8 year span. He finally got a club for the darn thing, making it a little more of a pain to steal. I asked someone why they're stolen so much, and the answer surprised me. He said you can break into the car and start it with the same device, all under 30 seconds.

[Mr.Badguy]

yeah just about any compact to midsize japanese cars have the same type of ignition mechanism. All you have to do is rip it out with the proper tools and use a screwdriver. Gettin in if the door is locked is the only real part that takes some skill. But again with the proper tools...

[habitatsk8r392]

.....or a hammer. Most stolen cars are sold for parts.....and there's a LOT of camrys, accords, and civics out there

[phat99accord]

It doesnt make it easier to steal!!!!

Basically you only need to tap into an ignition wire in the main harness going from the ignition switch and connect that to the 12V input side of the switch. then you can either just tap into the starter wire or cut it(that way you need to know where the switch is in order to start the car, better idea imo) and that is that. You will need to have the key in the ignition II position in order to make the switch active.

its the easiest thing to do, well ive also been doing remote starts in alot of cars so i can hotwire basically anything that doesnt have an immobilizer

[vikrampatel]

hi guys... i have the 04' tsx...and im trying to find out if i can do the push button start...

i can put a remote starter with the alarm.... and use the fob from the remote to unlock/disarm the system... and using a push button... under the dash would turn on the car, but WITHOUT putting the key in the ignition

as far as worrying about somebody stealing the car... if the car is broken into the alarm would disable the ignition...

in addition to this, the viper systems have gps telematics if i am not mistaken... and has the remote started/alarm etc built into it...and can be tracked by satellite and can be shutdown also...

so i would be able to turn on my car with the button and still not worry about it being stolen

is this possible? what about the wheel locking because there isnt a key in the ignition?

suggestions please!

[tratran]

can somebody help me install a s2000 button start on my 93 del sol?/

[Tedmond]

manual or automatic? do you have a remote starter? answer those and ill wire u up a diagram specifically for ur application.

[Zooty]

Originally Posted by vikrampatel

i can put a remote starter with the alarm.... and use the fob from the remote to unlock/disarm the system... and using a push button... under the dash would turn on the car, but WITHOUT putting the key in the ignition

If the alarm/key system COMES with its own fob for use with the starter button, then yeah that's how it works, but if it's for anything else then no. You have to be in range of the button (like a foot or so) and you have to have the right code, but not only is every keyfob's code different, the car sends a random code back to the keyfob to stash in memory, so that only it can come back and start the car again.

[Tedmond]

kk u kinda lost urself vikrampatel. If u have a factory alarm system or aftermarket with start. The unit should have a GROUND out when armed, that would be wired to a relay, and the relay will sit between the key cylinder and the starter motor. When the unit is armed, there is NO way that someone can start ur car, unless they cut the relays ground off. As far as push buttons, 04 TSX uses an RF key aka immobilizer at the key cylinder. So there is no way u can start ur car without the key in the ignition, unless u wired up a Bypasskit to be active during remote start AND during push button. When u do push button starts, u require alot of knowledge in electronics (relays, diodes, power etc) cuz u need to power the ignition, acc, and start without key. If u use ur key, and put the key into ignition, then push start, its easy as cake.

[Tedmond]

for push with key into ignition this is how i would wire it.

wire push button, ground to button, button to relay make sure when button pushed, ground is present

Relay terminal 85 to ignition
Relay terminal 86 to push button (shows ground when pushed)
Relay terminal 87 to Constant 12volts Fused with 30 amps.
Relay terminal 30 to start wire, Motor side.

when ground is prsent, relay allows 12v to the starter, once it has started u MUST LET GO, this is not a button that will auto detect ur car is running.

[nspec_Cd5]

jsut get a remote starter and u'll all be much happiers

[Tedmond]

couldnt agree more =D lol