new cl 3.2

[buicknet]

I just got a new cl 3.2 What is the first mod i should do for performance?

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[98CoupeV6]

well, a Comptech header will net you about 30 wheel horsepower, so you'd be looking at 300HP (if you have a Type-S) with a simple bolt on. They're quite expensive though...about $1200. www.comptechusa.com

As always, try to upgrade your suspension with your engine..slightly stiffer shocks and springs that will lower your car slightly as well, and some anti-roll bars for increased stiffness. Add a set of Potenza S-03's, and you're looking at one mean 300HP CL-S

I assume you do have the Type-S if you're looking for more power...is it 6 speed or auto? What color? Congrats on a really great car

[SumAccordGuy94]

someone really sucks at math... 260 + 30 is only 290... not 300.

[buicknet]

its a not a type S and its an automatic
I appreciate your replies.
I also want to lower it with out killing the ride.
i would appreciate any advice.
Thanks

[98CoupeV6]

Originally posted by SumAccordGuy94
someone really sucks at math... 260 + 30 is only 290... not 300.

Someone doesn't know about the difference between wheel horsepower and crank horsepower

[98CoupeV6]

Originally posted by buicknet
its a not a type S and its an automatic
I appreciate your replies.
I also want to lower it with out killing the ride.
i would appreciate any advice.
Thanks

Try www.tirerack.com for some ideas on lowering springs. Go to the customizing section and look at their suspension stuff. They sell an H&R 'OE' spring kit for my car, which lowers it .75/.50 inches but makes the ride only slightly stiffer. Look for that for the CL. Those cost about $175. Tires are generally going to make a bigger difference than springs, so pick yourself up a set of high quality summer tires like the Bridgestone Potenza S-03's. They'll run you about $600 a set.

Headers on your car will also gain about 20-30WHP, so you'd have Type-S horsepower for about the same money you would spend for the Type-S upgrade. www.comptechusa.com really has the best stuff. They sell a supercharger which adds about 60+ horsepower, so you might want to look into that. Since the transmission issue has been resolved in the 2003 model year, that might be a good investment for about $4500. They also have a REALLY nice exhaust that is pricey but is only slightly louder than stock, has a beautiful look to it, and will give you some good horsepower gains. Some Acura dealers stock and sell their parts.

[SumAccordGuy94]

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
Someone doesn't know about the difference between wheel horsepower and crank horsepower

yeah I do... the type-s is 260 crank HP... adding headers will make for 290 crank hp... subtract about 20% and you'll have a rough estimate of wheel hp.

[98CoupeV6]

Originally posted by SumAccordGuy94
yeah I do... the type-s is 260 crank HP... adding headers will make for 290 crank hp... subtract about 20% and you'll have a rough estimate of wheel hp.

Sorry, but no. A header will add about 30 wheel horsepower to the J30A2, as I said. That would equate to at least 300HP. The CL-S has just about exactly 20% drivetrain loss, so it would be roughly 305 horsepower.

[AcuraTL]

Originally posted by buicknet
its a not a type S and its an automatic
I appreciate your replies.
I also want to lower it with out killing the ride.
i would appreciate any advice.
Thanks

Get the Comptech springs. I've had the spring with stock shocks for almost 4 years now, no problems and the ride is not that harsh. Lowering the center gravity of your car will help in handling, it also will decrease brake dive/accelration squat. Plus, it gives the car a more aggressive look.

[niedejb]

Sell it and go back to the first gen CL for real performance.

[98CoupeV6]

Originally posted by niedejb
Sell it and go back to the first gen CL for real performance.

That has to be the single stupidest thing I've ever heard. Should he choose the Accord's 4 banger or the Accord's V6 in his CL?

[niedejb]

Apparently you have no clue on the performance difference between 200 whp and 250 whp.

Not to mention the 1st gens are ~300 lbs lighter.

Guess you dont get out much.

[98CoupeV6]

Originally posted by niedejb
Apparently you have no clue on the performance difference between 200 whp and 250 whp.

Not to mention the 1st gens are ~300 lbs lighter.

Guess you dont get out much.

I guess you don't realize that some people are a bit afraid of putting turbos in their cars and spending thousands of dollars.

[niedejb]

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
I guess you don't realize that some people are a bit afraid of putting turbos in their cars and spending thousands of dollars.

This has to be the single stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[buicknet]

Where can I get an after market dash kit to install a radio?

[fastball]

Originally posted by niedejb
Sell it and go back to the first gen CL for real performance.

What a funny guy! Have you ever driven a CL-S six speed? The first gen CL's can't hold a candle to the CL Type S. I mean, I have driven it back-to-back with a BMW 325Ci five speed and found that Acura is not far off the mark at all.... the car is just a little softer than the BMW, but is just as responsive, has perfectly linear steering, the shifts are crisp and close, and that engine is smoooooth as silk, and responsive in every gear. Even Car and Driver agree that the CL-S is a true BMW fighter, and they put it against a 330Ci. This is the best Acura since the last of the dearly departed Legend coupes with the Type II engine, and in Acura's history, only the NSX can really outshadow it. (You Integra lovers can eat your heart out..... the CL-S is for men, not ricer boys!)

[dsgindel]

get ride of cl and get a type s then start buying parts lol

[Tom2]

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
Sorry, but no. A header will add about 30 wheel horsepower to the J30A2, as I said. That would equate to at least 300HP. The CL-S has just about exactly 20% drivetrain loss, so it would be roughly 305 horsepower.

First of all, simply bolting on that header will not add 30 HP to the wheels.

But even if it did, you're still wrong with the numbers. Stop trying to mix and compare crank horsepower and wheel horsepower.

If you want to compare, keep them the same. Using Acura's rating of 260 (crank) horsepower and adding a Comptech header might get you another 20-25 (crank) horsepower. At best, you're looking at about 285 HP at the crank. Not 305 HP.

[AcuraTL]

Originally posted by Tom2
First of all, simply bolting on that header will not add 30 HP to the wheels.

But even if it did, you're still wrong with the numbers. Stop trying to mix and compare crank horsepower and wheel horsepower.

If you want to compare, keep them the same. Using Acura's rating of 260 (crank) horsepower and adding a Comptech header might get you another 20-25 (crank) horsepower. At best, you're looking at about 285 HP at the crank. Not 305 HP.

Well, per Comptech's website, adding their headers on a Type S TL/CL will yield about 30 hp to the wheels (they have a dyno graph). 30 hp to the wheels equals to about 35-36 to the crank, depending on the actual drivetrain loss %. So 260 plus 35 = 295 at the crank. If the drivetrain loss was more than 20%, then it will be close to or at 300hp at the crank.

[98CoupeV6]

Originally posted by Tom2
First of all, simply bolting on that header will not add 30 HP to the wheels.

But even if it did, you're still wrong with the numbers. Stop trying to mix and compare crank horsepower and wheel horsepower.

If you want to compare, keep them the same. Using Acura's rating of 260 (crank) horsepower and adding a Comptech header might get you another 20-25 (crank) horsepower. At best, you're looking at about 285 HP at the crank. Not 305 HP.

Calm down there big guy. Dynographs have proven that Comptech headers add about 30HP at the wheels on the CL-S/TL-S. Sometimes it's better to just say "wow" instead of being cynical and trying to prove people wrong

One wheel horsepower is going to equal more than one crank horsepower. You kinda made yourself look like an idiot. Because of drivetrain loss (measured at about 20%), thirty wheel horsepower will give you about thirty six crank horsepower. That adds up to about 296HP, like ATL said. I apologize I overdid it by nine horsepower, I must've been a little crazy when I wrote that post.

[AcuraFanatic]

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
Calm down there big guy. Dynographs have proven that Comptech headers add about 30HP at the wheels on the CL-S/TL-S. Sometimes it's better to just say "wow" instead of being cynical and trying to prove people wrong

One wheel horsepower is going to equal more than one crank horsepower. You kinda made yourself look like an idiot. Because of drivetrain loss (measured at about 20%), thirty wheel horsepower will give you about thirty six crank horsepower. That adds up to about 296HP, like ATL said. I apologize I overdid it by nine horsepower, I must've been a little crazy when I wrote that post.

Tom =

[ur31337]

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
Calm down there big guy. Dynographs have proven that Comptech headers add about 30HP at the wheels on the CL-S/TL-S. Sometimes it's better to just say "wow" instead of being cynical and trying to prove people wrong

One wheel horsepower is going to equal more than one crank horsepower. You kinda made yourself look like an idiot. Because of drivetrain loss (measured at about 20%), thirty wheel horsepower will give you about thirty six crank horsepower. That adds up to about 296HP, like ATL said. I apologize I overdid it by nine horsepower, I must've been a little crazy when I wrote that post.

Well put. That last line makes the whole post

[NoAcYet]

Anyone have any 0-60 times for a 03 CL-S? with or with headers and maybe a supercharger? Dont have one yet but I've been looking at them alot...It will be my first non GM product I'm a rice virgin LOL

[BonzoAPD]

oh boy look where this thread has gone. There is lots of good info on here. I recommend getting the comptech header as well as comptech springs. Also get a K&N air filter . Not sure what tires they pot on the regular CL but on my dad's S they have Pilot Sports which are pretty decent although it would handle even better with some really agressive summer tires.