New Generation of CL / TL?? - Honda-Acura.net

hangbok · 01-06-03, 08:12 PM

Hey guys! I'm new at the forum and was wondering when the CL or the TL will change its look. I'm looking for a new car to buy in the summer and was wondering if a new generation is coming out... should i wait?? Does anyone have any info on the new generation. Replys will be much appreciated. Thanks

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SumAccordGuy94 · 01-06-03, 09:02 PM

Is a TL or CL the type of car you're looking for??

As far as I know, there is no word of a re-design yet. As you may or may not know, Honda likes to keep their cars fresh looking... so new models come out usually every 4 years... in 99 the 2nd gen TL came out... and in 2001 they re-designed the car lightly... mostly making the grille and headlights larger... some other changes were made... and they added the type-S version. It'd seem that 2003 would be the year of a re-design... but its not... i'm assuming they are going to bring out a new TL and CL at the same time.

The 2nd generation CL came out in 2001... with the 2003 models seeing a slight face-lift, and the addition of the manual tranny option.

Honda keeps a pattern... usually... every 4 years they unveil a new body style... and after 2 years running, give the model a face-lift.

0cean_man · 01-06-03, 09:07 PM

Don't forget that the new TSX will be coming soon! It's basically a Euro Accord with acura badges, and it's gonna be sweet! I figured I should mention this since the Accord and CL are brothers in arms, and now their getting a new sibling.

98CoupeV6 · 01-06-03, 09:13 PM

Honda will redesign the TL for the 2004 Model Year, following its 5 year cycle. It will be introduced in the fall of 2003. The CL may be redesigned with it (or possible a year or so later), or it may get axed. Sales have been slumping.

If you want opinions and rumors on what the next TL might be like, go to the news and rumors forum: http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/fo...php?forumid=27

There are a couple very long threads on the next TL with loads of information...do a simple search

hangbok · 01-08-03, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the info guys. BTW i'm not sure what kinda of car i want.. thanks

ben1233 · 02-10-03, 09:46 PM

Just a little snippit of information I heard regarding the next TL:

Rumor has it over in Japan, the next Honda Inspire (aka Acura TL) will have a Honda version of GM's 'displacement on demand.' If you've never heard of it before, it goes something like this:

The standard 6-cyl engine operates normally under any sort of acceleration. However, once at a cruising speed, half of the engine bay shuts down, leaving 3 functioning cylinders. This technology was once used on a few Cadillacs back in the 70's, and is currently being used on the Mercedes S600. (which has a V12)

Now I'm sure it will be engineered in normal Honda fashion (i.e. flawless). Obviously, the changeover from 3 to 6 cylinders would have to be seamless.....BUT I seriously wonder how 3 cylinders would generate enough steam to keep a 3400 lbs. car plowing along at 80 or 90 mph. Perhaps it is only meant for slower speeds...(?) Either way, it would do wonders for fuel economy.

If you want the link to the article, perhaps I can dig it up again....What do you guys think? Sound reasonable?

Jungle Jane · 02-11-03, 08:11 PM

cl changes in 2005 if they dont kill it..if you want any more info on it, check out acl.com or acl.com ...hondas are on a 5 year plan so bodystyles change every 5 years...it used to be 4 years

BonzoAPD · 03-03-03, 01:22 PM

I acn't wait to see what they do to the TL

ib_jimmy · 03-11-03, 11:44 AM

on www.vtec.net calendar it show that the CL might be cancel in 2005 and the TL in Fall of 2003 might be fully redesign with a 3.4L V6 280HP 6 speed manual transmission......AWD!!!!!!!!

98CoupeV6 · 03-11-03, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ib_jimmy
on www.vtec.net calendar it show that the CL might be cancel in 2005 and the TL in Fall of 2003 might be fully redesign with a 3.4L V6 280HP 6 speed manual transmission......AWD!!!!!!!!

vtec.net has consistently been wrong in their predictions. They suck at predicting. They prediced a 3.2 V6 225HP engine in the 2003 Accord when the HAN'ers said 3.0L V6 with 230+ horsepower. The next TL will not get a 6 speed, I will bet my car on it.

ib_jimmy · 03-12-03, 11:27 AM

I didn't know that....but you saying the next TL won't get a 6 speed, don't they already have a 6 speed TL Type-S?

98CoupeV6 · 03-12-03, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ib_jimmy
I didn't know that....but you saying the next TL won't get a 6 speed, don't they already have a 6 speed TL Type-S?

The CL Type-S has an optional 6 speed, the TL Type-S only has a 5 speed automatic. The TL won't get a 6 speed because it will be even more of a luxury sedan in 2004, and the TSX is the Acura sedan marketed to people who would want a 6 speed.

ben1233 · 03-12-03, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
The TL won't get a 6 speed because it will be even more of a luxury sedan in 2004, and the TSX is the Acura sedan marketed to people who would want a 6 speed.

I pray to god they don't make the TL a bloated land barge. I mean, it is sort of one already - but its stretched out to about as far as it can go before it becomes the ES300. Is this the way you think they're gonna go?

The one thing that I want the most is tighter sheetmetal. I'm not a fan of the huge front and rear overhangs and the 4X4 ride height that the current TL possesses.

98CoupeV6 · 03-12-03, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ben1233
I pray to god they don't make the TL a bloated land barge. I mean, it is sort of one already - but its stretched out to about as far as it can go before it becomes the ES300. Is this the way you think they're gonna go?

The one thing that I want the most is tighter sheetmetal. I'm not a fan of the huge front and rear overhangs and the 4X4 ride height that the current TL possesses.

The TL as it is is a bundle of compromises. I'd look for an adjustable suspension but a generally more luxury oriented character. I'd say 250HP for the base and 280-285 for the Type-S, with AWD optional or standard. That's my guess.

BonzoAPD · 03-24-03, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 98CoupeV6
The TL as it is is a bundle of compromises. I'd look for an adjustable suspension but a generally more luxury oriented character. I'd say 250HP for the base and 280-285 for the Type-S, with AWD optional or standard. That's my guess.

I hope your guess is right, because that is what I have been hoping for.

01-08-03, 10:50 AM	#5
hangbok Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: chicago/Purdue Posts: 3	Thanks for the info guys. BTW i'm not sure what kinda of car i want.. thanks __________________ Current Rides -2002 3.2 TL Type-S -2000 CBR f4 * yoshimura exhaust

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Jungle Jane Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 19	cl changes in 2005 if they dont kill it..if you want any more info on it, check out acl.com or acl.com ...hondas are on a 5 year plan so bodystyles change every 5 years...it used to be 4 years __________________ '97 Acura 2.2 CL-Inza Red cardomain.com/id/junglejane

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01-06-03, 09:02 PM	#2
SumAccordGuy94 Older Honda Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Adirondacks of NY Posts: 3,155	Is a TL or CL the type of car you're looking for?? As far as I know, there is no word of a re-design yet. As you may or may not know, Honda likes to keep their cars fresh looking... so new models come out usually every 4 years... in 99 the 2nd gen TL came out... and in 2001 they re-designed the car lightly... mostly making the grille and headlights larger... some other changes were made... and they added the type-S version. It'd seem that 2003 would be the year of a re-design... but its not... i'm assuming they are going to bring out a new TL and CL at the same time. The 2nd generation CL came out in 2001... with the 2003 models seeing a slight face-lift, and the addition of the manual tranny option. Honda keeps a pattern... usually... every 4 years they unveil a new body style... and after 2 years running, give the model a face-lift.

01-06-03, 09:07 PM	#3
0cean_man Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 128	Don't forget that the new TSX will be coming soon! It's basically a Euro Accord with acura badges, and it's gonna be sweet! I figured I should mention this since the Accord and CL are brothers in arms, and now their getting a new sibling.

01-06-03, 09:13 PM	#4
98CoupeV6 lots and lots of fail Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit Posts: 23,000	Honda will redesign the TL for the 2004 Model Year, following its 5 year cycle. It will be introduced in the fall of 2003. The CL may be redesigned with it (or possible a year or so later), or it may get axed. Sales have been slumping. If you want opinions and rumors on what the next TL might be like, go to the news and rumors forum: http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/fo...php?forumid=27 There are a couple very long threads on the next TL with loads of information...do a simple search

02-10-03, 09:46 PM	#6
ben1233 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 104	Just a little snippit of information I heard regarding the next TL: Rumor has it over in Japan, the next Honda Inspire (aka Acura TL) will have a Honda version of GM's 'displacement on demand.' If you've never heard of it before, it goes something like this: The standard 6-cyl engine operates normally under any sort of acceleration. However, once at a cruising speed, half of the engine bay shuts down, leaving 3 functioning cylinders. This technology was once used on a few Cadillacs back in the 70's, and is currently being used on the Mercedes S600. (which has a V12) Now I'm sure it will be engineered in normal Honda fashion (i.e. flawless). Obviously, the changeover from 3 to 6 cylinders would have to be seamless.....BUT I seriously wonder how 3 cylinders would generate enough steam to keep a 3400 lbs. car plowing along at 80 or 90 mph. Perhaps it is only meant for slower speeds...(?) Either way, it would do wonders for fuel economy. If you want the link to the article, perhaps I can dig it up again....What do you guys think? Sound reasonable?

03-11-03, 11:44 AM	#9
ib_jimmy Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 14	on www.vtec.net calendar it show that the CL might be cancel in 2005 and the TL in Fall of 2003 might be fully redesign with a 3.4L V6 280HP 6 speed manual transmission......AWD!!!!!!!!

03-12-03, 11:27 AM	#11
ib_jimmy Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 14	I didn't know that....but you saying the next TL won't get a 6 speed, don't they already have a 6 speed TL Type-S?