C&D: Dodge Neon SRT-4
11-09-2002, 09:00 AM
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Car & Driver: Dodge Neon SRT-4
0-60mph: 5.6sec
1/4mile: 14.2sec@102mph
:jawdrop:
Even though I'm not a big fan of the Neon, I must give Dodge mad props for the accomplishments.
11-09-2002, 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by AcuraFanatic
It's a sad day when you'll narrowly beat a Dodge Neon in a drag race with a Boxster S.
It's a sad day when you'll narrowly beat a Dodge Neon in a drag race with a Boxster S.
. Still proves Germany and Japan got it goin on!
11-09-2002, 11:22 AM
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Looking at the spec sheet, interesting things to note:
1. 5-speed manual is one gear to little (6-speed is almost a pre-requisite these days)
2. 75dBA at 70mph is friggin loud, period.
3. 6000RPM redline will not entice Honda guru's
4. 14.0psi of boost puts a lot of stress on the engine
1. 5-speed manual is one gear to little (6-speed is almost a pre-requisite these days)
2. 75dBA at 70mph is friggin loud, period.
3. 6000RPM redline will not entice Honda guru's
4. 14.0psi of boost puts a lot of stress on the engine
11-09-2002, 11:27 AM
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With that kind of boost stress, I'm guessing the pistons, rods, and crank are all iron, as is the block. Jeez, 75db would give me a headache by the time I get to work in the morning (40 minute drive, all freeway)!
11-09-2002, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by AcuraFanatic
Looking at the spec sheet, interesting things to note:
1. 5-speed manual is one gear to little (6-speed is almost a pre-requisite these days)
2. 75dBA at 70mph is friggin loud, period.
3. 6000RPM redline will not entice Honda guru's
4. 14.0psi of boost puts a lot of stress on the engine
Looking at the spec sheet, interesting things to note:
1. 5-speed manual is one gear to little (6-speed is almost a pre-requisite these days)
2. 75dBA at 70mph is friggin loud, period.
3. 6000RPM redline will not entice Honda guru's
4. 14.0psi of boost puts a lot of stress on the engine
11-09-2002, 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by fastball
Dodge must still use a turbo to pull that off. Ask them to coax that power with nothing but a block, pistons, and cams.
Dodge must still use a turbo to pull that off. Ask them to coax that power with nothing but a block, pistons, and cams.
Originally posted by AcuraFanatic
1. 5-speed manual is one gear to little (6-speed is almost a pre-requisite these days)
2. 75dBA at 70mph is friggin loud, period.
3. 6000RPM redline will not entice Honda guru's
4. 14.0psi of boost puts a lot of stress on the engine
1. 5-speed manual is one gear to little (6-speed is almost a pre-requisite these days)
2. 75dBA at 70mph is friggin loud, period.
3. 6000RPM redline will not entice Honda guru's
4. 14.0psi of boost puts a lot of stress on the engine
2. 75 dBA ain't that loud. Besides, it's at redline...do you really expect the car to be whisper-quiet?
3. Honda gurus? How many "Honda gurus" are there exactly?
4. The motor only runs 8.1:1 CR. The WRX runs 14 psi of boost stock also, is that motor overstressed?
Originally posted by fastball
With that kind of boost stress, I'm guessing the pistons, rods, and crank are all iron, as is the block. Jeez, 75db would give me a headache by the time I get to work in the morning (40 minute drive, all freeway)!
With that kind of boost stress, I'm guessing the pistons, rods, and crank are all iron, as is the block. Jeez, 75db would give me a headache by the time I get to work in the morning (40 minute drive, all freeway)!
[edit] Now don't think that I'm like worshipping the SRT-4, I'm not. The skidpad numbers compared to the Focus SVT and Mazdaspeed Protege indicate that the chassis engineers could have spent a bit more time getting everything dialed in, given that the car's already riding on Pilot Sport tires. Neither the Focus nor Protege has that kind of sticky rubber yet manages to pull much better numbers on the skidpad. However if you look at the braking distance the stickier tires on the Neon show where they really help.
11-09-2002, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by MrFatBooty
(banter, banter, blah, blah, blah)
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11-09-2002, 04:43 PM
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Really, does it bring you pleasure while you're driving to work to think of all the math those Japanese guys did when designing your car? If you're going to make an argument, please use logic and premises which are at least reasonable. "Fantastic engineering and precision crafting"? Dude, adding superlatives to your sentence doesn't make you sound any smarter, it just looks like you're trying too hard.
These opinions about turbochargers are quite unfounded. If I were to follow your line of reasoning, cars such as the Mazda RX-7 TT, Nissan Skyline GT-R, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO, Nissan 300ZX TT, Porsche 911 Turbo, Subaru Impreza WRX, Toyota MR2 Turbo, Toyota Celica alltrac and Toyota Supra TT would be low-tech hunks of junk with no thought put into them and no precision in their craftsmanship.
As for the SRT-4, the point of it is exactly what you said it is--to be cheap and go fast, refinement be damned. Obviously you're more concerned with things like a cushy ride and a quiet motor than with going fast and can't understand the appeal of a low 14-second car that costs 20 grand. Oh, and Neons aren't made out of plastic.
These opinions about turbochargers are quite unfounded. If I were to follow your line of reasoning, cars such as the Mazda RX-7 TT, Nissan Skyline GT-R, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO, Nissan 300ZX TT, Porsche 911 Turbo, Subaru Impreza WRX, Toyota MR2 Turbo, Toyota Celica alltrac and Toyota Supra TT would be low-tech hunks of junk with no thought put into them and no precision in their craftsmanship.
As for the SRT-4, the point of it is exactly what you said it is--to be cheap and go fast, refinement be damned. Obviously you're more concerned with things like a cushy ride and a quiet motor than with going fast and can't understand the appeal of a low 14-second car that costs 20 grand. Oh, and Neons aren't made out of plastic.
11-09-2002, 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by MrFatBooty
As for the SRT-4, the point of it is exactly what you said it is--to be cheap and go fast, refinement be damned. Obviously you're more concerned with things like a cushy ride and a quiet motor than with going fast and can't understand the appeal of a low 14-second car that costs 20 grand. Oh, and Neons aren't made out of plastic.
As for the SRT-4, the point of it is exactly what you said it is--to be cheap and go fast, refinement be damned. Obviously you're more concerned with things like a cushy ride and a quiet motor than with going fast and can't understand the appeal of a low 14-second car that costs 20 grand. Oh, and Neons aren't made out of plastic.
wned:wned:wned:hehe yeah.. i just thought i would mention the itr factor! i guess if it doesnt have a h badge and is loud, stiff and can pull a 14 second 1/4 mile stock, its gotta be trash.. open your minds people, American car companies were bound to catch on to trend soon or later..
later..