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Old 06-26-2009, 01:53 PM
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Okay, I am new to this site and Im also new to Honda's. So bear with me!

I recently bought a 93 civic DX hatchback with a D15B7 and 288xxx miles. Its clean and runs decent for now but the signs are leading to not much longer. I found some deals for cheap vtec motors and I've heard that they are decent on mileage and great for building some cheap power and I'm on a very tight budget.

What is the process of swapping a sohc non-vtec to a sohc vtec motor? What all do I need for this to be possible? Do I need new wiring? Computer? Tranny? Mounts? Etc, etc, etc.



Any help would be awesome.

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Old 06-26-2009, 08:55 PM
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they call it the mini me swap. your just changing out the head
Old 06-26-2009, 09:32 PM
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your best bet is to find a good condition d16z6 and swap that in, the effort of a mini swap is waste of money IMO, for more on this, try looking at the swap section, just a thought
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If you have a DX, you could do a mini-me swap (just swapping out the head for a d16z6 vtec head) which would gain you a few horse power.

IMO, you'd be better off swapping to a complete d16z6 motor, transmission and ECU, which would give you the additional few ponies, plus a more useful gear ratio. This also leaves you open to future modifications, which is a good thing, because you'll probably get bored pretty quick
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Thanks for all your help, guys!

Again, I am new to this so I'm not so sure where to go or what, but I will navigate the site some more and also the web.

Again, thanks for the help!
Old 06-28-2009, 04:58 PM
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if i were you i wouldnt waste my time on the z6 head. you have almost 300k on ur bottom end dude how much longer do you think it will last after you put another 40h.p. on it?? trust me not long. if you dont want to do a full motor swap they are right thats the way to go but i would do the head swap and sell the car a.s.a.p.!!! it wont hold up for long.also you will need a vtec solenoid and a td-42 distributor and optimally a p06 ECU.if you really want to do it right just go to Hmotors.com and have a motor shipped to you from japan for like 550$ and only has like 50k miles on it. have fun and if you need anymore advice hit me up. i am in ur current predicament/build just a few steps ahead. sometimes i wish i had just bought the motor but i want the experience of building ground up!
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Originally Posted by mcclain_stephen
you will need a [...] td-42 distributor and optimally a p06 ECU.
He can cut the housing of his current distributor and it'll work fine. Also, he needs a p28 ECU - the p06 was found in the DX/LX models. He could chip his p06 ECU for ~$40 though, and it'll function the same as a p28.

I've been driving a mini-me for about 4 years, and it's been holding up fine so far. However, I think it was a terrible use of my money. If I was to go back and do it again, I would have just swapped in a d16a6 camshaft.
Old 06-29-2009, 08:51 AM
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True. That is a bit of high mileage to be experimenting with. haha. I've also been debating saving up for a while to buy a B series swap. . .but only time will tell on that one.
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WELL,as far as i know his dizzy will not even bolt up to a Z6 head where did you get that idea?? it only goes in one way and the stock dseries non vtec dizzy will absolutely NOT bolt up to a Z6 vtec head!! also the ECU i was referring to is a p06/p28 chipped ecu the p28 will not plug into his main harness but the p06 will!!if you go to rywire.com peter the owner will be able to shed some light for you!! and he will need the necessary jumpers to make vtec engage above 4600 rpm. my mini me d15b/z6 turns 8600 rpm b-4 redline and i dont wanna be doin that onna motor that has 300k miles on it???you???

I've been driving a mini-me for about 4 years, and it's been holding up fine so far. However, I think it was a terrible use of my money. If I was to go back and do it again, I would have just swapped in a d16a6 camshaft.[/quote]

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Old 06-29-2009, 01:59 PM
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Having a bad day, are we?

Like I said, you have to cut the housing to make the distributor fit. The p28 will plug in with no problems; you just need to add 2 wires for the solenoid and pressure sensor. I did both of these, and I've had no issues.

Also, you must be running a hell of a valvetrain to make power at 8600 rpm...



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