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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    Well after measuring everything up i had to tear the block down again so that i can get the mains line honed.

    Here are the measurements Crank 1) .1906 2) .1906 3) .1894 4) .1907 5) .1907 Block 1) .1914 2) .1911 3) .1924 4) .1921 5) .1928 Which yeild these clearences 1) .0008 2) .0005 3) .0030 4) .0014 5) .0021

    Once i get the block back i will measure the mains and figure out what bearings i need to get. One of these day the motor will be in and running.
    Oops... epic fail.

    So basically #4 is right. I think you've figured out why #1 & 2 were so bad. If I saw these #'s, I'd align bore it. It's okay if #3 is a lil' on the loose side for the crank, but the block seems to be where all the variance is. The reason why I'd align bore it is so I don't have to buy several sets of bearings to piece together a fix for that. You want to be able to replace them with 1 standard set, or one off-sized set if you can.
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    align hone FTW. sounds like you should have done that from the get go. Not to be a dick, buy with all you have into this why didn't you do that from the get go?
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    I contacted the guy i bought the motor from, and he said it was running fine, no problems with the bearings.

    Jafro the spun rod bearing was from the first block i bought. I will call around some other places to see what their rates are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    I contacted the guy i bought the motor from, and he said it was running fine, no problems with the bearings.

    Jafro the spun rod bearing was from the first block i bought. I will call around some other places to see what their rates are.
    I know about the motor, you 'splained that on the phone... I think you misunderstood me. My post was edited because at first, I replied to you just quoting you, and that was all I posted. I had to edit in my response, so I <me epic failed at interweb. Not you. I epic failed like the epic.fail.guy. I'm not breakin' your balls. The HAN server probably mailed you an update with just your post in it... just to prove my epic fail.

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    Just to echo Civic2ScoobyNback, you'd probably just need it honed. Align Bore is probably overkill because they have to shave the main caps and cut a new hole. A good hone would probably even 'er out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jafro View Post
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    I dont know why i didn't think of the align hone before. I misread Lee's post. I have to call on monday they are all closed on sat.
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    I hope your motor is up and running soon. Do you remember what we spoke about when I came by to pick up those parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumnah View Post
    I hope your motor is up and running soon. Do you remember what we spoke about when I came by to pick up those parts?

    Cant say that i do, it was a while ago.
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    well i got my block back from the machine shop. And after fanticly calling Tony, then finding out that i did a stupid mistake in measuring, I finally got what bearings i need to get.


    Here are the measurements Crank 1) .1906 2) .1906 3) .1894 4) .1907 5) .1907 Block 1) .3484 2) .3484 3) .3484 4) .3489 5) .3486 and with .0015 on 1,2,4,5 i get these bearing numbers 1).07815 (red) 2) .07815 (red) 4) .07835 (red) 5) .0782 (red) and using .0018 for 3 it will be 3) .07895. (green). I had number 3 at .0015 but Tony advised me to go with .0018, so it pushed it from a yellow to a green. So i will order the part tmrw along with a new oil squirter at the happy price of $100. Atleast im making progress.


    Anybody want some Standard King Bearings. equal to honda browns

    The other surprise was that the honing was suppose to be 125 but because of Honda Bimetal Block it ended up costing me 270 including a Jet Clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    The other surprise was that the honing was suppose to be 125 but because of Honda Bimetal Block it ended up costing me 270 including a Jet Clean.
    Fok doood. Sorry to hear it's being such an expense but I'm glad to hear it's coming together! If things keep going my way, there will be plenty of room in my garage to work on your exhaust (very soon). Of course, that's more money for you to spend on materials for that thing... but... uh... where was I going with that? Oh yeah, the welding is free.

    I've got a furnished bedroom for you (with cable and a TV now) if you wind up having to stay overnight or for the weekend to get it straight. Bring an extra $20 spot for Hillbilly Red's Barbecue. I've had their ribs and the brisket and it's to die for.

    Multiple wins for you whenever you're ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jafro View Post
    Fok doood. Sorry to hear it's being such an expense but I'm glad to hear it's coming together! If things keep going my way, there will be plenty of room in my garage to work on your exhaust (very soon). Of course, that's more money for you to spend on materials for that thing... but... uh... where was I going with that? Oh yeah, the welding is free.

    I've got a furnished bedroom for you (with cable and a TV now) if you wind up having to stay overnight or for the weekend to get it straight. Bring an extra $20 spot for Hillbilly Red's Barbecue. I've had their ribs and the brisket and it's to die for.

    Multiple wins for you whenever you're ready.
    I will definitly take you on that offer. Now i have to do some more side jobs so i can get some extra cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    I will definitly take you on that offer. Now i have to do some more side jobs so i can get some extra cash.
    Okay, you can't use the spare bedroom for THAT!
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    I ment at my shop......
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    well i got my block back from the machine shop. And after fanticly calling Tony, then finding out that i did a stupid mistake in measuring, I finally got what bearings i need to get.

    i don't mind, keeps my brain functioning in the winter months..

    we've got so much damn snow here! 18 inches of snow sittin on top of the cars out side...

    i mean the rhino is good fun this time of the year but geez, this snow is gettin old.
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    Well the motor is in and running. I drove it home yesterday. Oil pressure if good, water temp is good, and there is no strange noises. Hey tony on cold start up OP is 70 PSI. does that sound right???


    The only causuality is the sender for my oil pressure gauge, so i ghetto rigged it right now so that it would work most of the time. I will bring it back in today and check again for leaks. I had to get use to my clutch again, after driving a auto for so long.
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    70 psi cold start up sounds a little high, but not unusual.

    whats is idle psi after its warm? and what is it above 3500 rpm
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    around 15-20 PSI at idle and around 60 at 3500
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    sounds like what I get, but I've got a D so that's probably not much help
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    based on the service manual its in spec.
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    sounds fine...but a little on the low side. my old b18b with 125k miles was 20-25/75-80psi

    could be because the sender hack?
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    my sender is messed up, and i think the lower reading are scewed
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    my sender is messed up, and i think the lower reading are scewed
    yeah you should be fine.

    i had a funky T setup for my oil pressure gauge and oil feed line for the turbo so that the sender wouldnt put weight on the T fitting off the block.

    the downside was that it seeped oil over time.
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    your oil pressure is perfect!

    excellent cold start pressure due due to the clearances that were chosen and the weight of oil being ran. Idle pressure is good but will probably go down a little after it ends up settling in around 750rpm idle once tuned properly.

    good job & glad to see you drove it again!
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    im running castrol 5w-30 right now then i will switch to Mobil 1 syn 5w-30 later. I think im going to cut the filter open today and look at it today. Im still getting a CEL. I have to check it out and find out what it is. As soon as i turn the car off its clears. Im thinking it will deal with my O2 sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchVX View Post
    im running castrol 5w-30 right now then i will switch to Mobil 1 syn 5w-30 later. I think im going to cut the filter open today and look at it today. Im still getting a CEL. I have to check it out and find out what it is. As soon as i turn the car off its clears. Im thinking it will deal with my O2 sensor.

    yea figure out what code that is soon!
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    Well i just cut the oil filter. And the good news is NO METAL. I will try and get the code tonight.
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    Well the code is a 1. I went in and disabled the heater circuit to see if that will help.
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    yay no metal
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