:rofl: What a funny guy! Have you ever driven a CL-S six speed? The first gen CL's can't hold a candle to the CL Type S. I mean, I have driven it back-to-back with a BMW 325Ci five speed and found that Acura is not far off the mark at all.... the car is just a little softer than the BMW, but is just as responsive, has perfectly linear steering, the shifts are crisp and close, and that engine is smoooooth as silk, and responsive in every gear. Even Car and Driver agree that the CL-S is a true BMW fighter, and they put it against a 330Ci. This is the best Acura since the last of the dearly departed Legend coupes with the Type II engine, and in Acura's history, only the NSX can really outshadow it. (You Integra lovers can eat your heart out..... the CL-S is for men, not ricer boys!)